Ogreden wrote:Now how do I feel about people trying to sell these things? That tick me off. The only people who should be allowed to make a profit off them are the original owners of the rights.
Xaxaxe wrote:The danger for the seller, of course, is if collectors begin drifting from the first group to the second. At that point, I think a drop in price would be noticeable.
Badmike wrote:Dungeon mags including #1 have pretty much retained their value, no doubt helped by the fact no Dungeon magazine archive has never been released. On the whole I think the Pdf market has heavily driven down demand for the "average" module (T1, Q1, B series, stuff like that). I don't think the collectible module has been effected at all.
mbassoc2003 wrote:Badmike wrote:ike"]Dungeon mags including #1 have pretty much retained their value, no doubt helped by the fact no Dungeon magazine archive has never been released. On the whole I think the Pdf market has heavily driven down demand for the "average" module (T1, Q1, B series, stuff like that). I don't think the collectible module has been effected at all.Thanks for your thoughts Mike, from a dealers perspective. I was not on eBay in the pre-svgames.com era. I don't know how much of the price of S1, Q1 etc has dropped. But maybe some of the drop in price is due to the flood of common products as eBay has taken off over the years. This attraction of new sellers is just going to increase. I don't know how long eBay has been advertising on TV in the US, but they have only just started advertising in the UK and Germany (six months), so they are seriously trying to expand their recognition/user base in Europe.This can only lower the price of regular xD&D products as more and more are offered for sale. Hopefully it will flush out a few more rarities from peoples attics so harami2000 can convince them to place a $20 BIN on them or improvstone will snap them up for $2000.
Badmike wrote:ike"]Dungeon mags including #1 have pretty much retained their value, no doubt helped by the fact no Dungeon magazine archive has never been released. On the whole I think the Pdf market has heavily driven down demand for the "average" module (T1, Q1, B series, stuff like that). I don't think the collectible module has been effected at all.
dbartman wrote:I think long-term paper will cease to exist as a medium. Everything will be in digital format. .What's this mean for the paper products from the "past". Only hard-core collectors will have any desire to have them and only the rare ones will be worth anything. The rest will be essentially worthless since people will consider the paper versions to be "archaic". It's already starting.Think of phonograpic records as an example...Comments?
dbartman wrote:It's already starting.Think of phonograpic records as an example...Comments?
johnhuck wrote:dbartman wrote:It's already starting.Think of phonograpic records as an example...Comments?Phonographs redundant? And just when I've recently started buying vinyl again.Seems that all technologies since vinyl have sacrificed sound quality at the altar of miniaturisation. OK vinyl isn't perfect and degrades every time it is played. And my hearing probably isn't up to picking up the differences between analogue and a digital format. But there's something about a good old fashioned vinyl record and its crackles that just can't be beat.I don't want something that stores every piece of music I've ever wanted to hear. And I don't want a portable device which stores every book I ever want to read. Too much choice. Not good.]
Ogreden wrote:Thought I would also add for everyone here. As a photogrpaher I take interest and will offer the information that. It has also been found that Digital Photos over a matter of time degrade also. To seriously save your precious photos and such, you should be backing them up on a CD. So you should always keep a photo set up of, 1: CD with them. 2: a Back up CD burent at a seperate time within a few weeks. 3: Print them with a photo printer in a decent size 5X7 and store them. Or keep a set on a backup harddrive.They will degrade on a harddrive. But with a backup of double CD's and burn them new every 6 months to a year. You should be able to keep them until they improve the media or a new thing comes out.And yup Cd's are about a 20 year life, So be sure to reburn them about every 5 years at max.
bclarkie wrote:Well this certainly isn't good news for me. I have a music CD collection of over 400 CD's. Nothing like finding out you may just pissed away $5000.00....
Do PDF files damage the Dungeons & Dragons collectables market?
If you like PDFs or hate these thieving b*st*rds, or don't even care, post a response.
Halaster Blackcloak wrote:Interestingly, I was just discussing this with a friend off-line after posting my last message, and the subject came up. It made me think of another angle.Sometimes I'll see an old AD&D item on ebay and I kinda want to bid on it, but I'm hesitant to spend the big bucks because I'm not sure I'll like it. For example, I ended up putting off bidding on S1-4 Realms of Horror because I'm just not sure about the contents. Sure, I have S1 and S2 and S4 and all that. But what does the supermodule itself actually look like inside? Getting it in PDF format to look over may get me excited enough to buy it. Because bottom line, if it looks good, I want a real live hardcopy in my hands, and I want an original, not something printed out at Kinko's from a PDF file. So viewing a PDF increases my chances of putting in a higher bid on that item. So for me at least, being able to get a hold of some of the rarer stuff in PDF only increases the likelihood that I'll break the budget and put in an outrageous bid to get an original. Just my 50¢ or so.
Halaster Blackcloak wrote:Getting it in PDF format to look over may get me excited enough to buy it.
Halaster Blackcloak wrote:As far as copyright, I say **** 'em! If WOTC is concerned about copyrights, then let them re-release the old stuff in either WELL DONE pdf format (not like some of the crap I've seen) or just reprint them. If they don't, they're not making money off it anyway, so who cares if someone is selling a PDF of it? WOTC makes no money off the secondary market anyway.