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Post Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:37 am 
 

Hi guys, could you point me to the right sleeve size to properly archive my dear d&d modules?

I see Ultra pro has many quality products but i wonder which specific product size and quality is the best for storing the d&d modules.

Are these good? what do you recommend?

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:58 am 
 

I have literally used over a thousand of these.  They are the exact size needed for TSR books, under 64 pages.  Anything bigger, they get tight and you may have to avoid the backer board.  They are great.  Self adhesive flap is a plus.  Note that they aren't the heaviest duty archival bag (but the company does have those I think).

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sppmaglr-100   (LARGE\Movie Magazine Sleeve-100)
kcb30ml-100   (BACKINGS for Large\Movie Magazines. 8-5/8 x 11-1/8.-100)

Check them out!  They also do free shipping to most places (US).

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:36 am 
 

Thank you!!

Im in Spain, so something I can buy off Amazon or similar so i save on shipping would be preferred.

Will try to find a similar product from a nearer seller.


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:28 pm 
 

BCW Supplies is another option too. They have "thick" magazine bags as well which is good for those TSR books over 64 pages. They sell some of their products on Amazon so that may help.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:34 pm 
 

Depends on what you mean by archiving ;-)

You can get magazine sized bags, but then you have to think about the material they are made from. Polypropylene, polyethylene, and Mylar(registered trademark - polyethylene teraphthalate) are all choices you have when it comes to storage. Lots have been written about this, especially in the comic book world, but I have not seen any real world differences in my books due to what type of bag I used between the three. I pick up magazine sized bags from my local comic book store along with boards, and haven't looked back. Good luck and as with all my posts...just my 2 cents :-)

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:42 am 
 

Thank you guys!

What kind/size of sleeve should I use to protect the BECMI boxes and the typical thicker ad&d boxed sets?

I am planning on moving to the coast and I am scared of humidity warping my dear material.


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d3rmond wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:Thank you guys!

What kind/size of sleeve should I use to protect the BECMI boxes and the typical thicker ad&d boxed sets?

I am planning on moving to the coast and I am scared of humidity warping my dear material.



So I took a look at my different size sleeves last night and then measured some of the various boxes. I am at work now and going off memory so please excuse me if I get something backwards.

I buy all my bags from BCWsupplies, but there are other sources.

Magazine Bags (8 3/4 x 11) - Most standard modules or books up to ~64 pages.
Magazine Bags, Thick (8 7/8 x 11) - Most softcover books and some thinner hardbacks (e.g., complete player handbooks, monstrous compendiums, white wolf type books, supermodules etc.)
Book Magazine Bags (10 x 13) - These work for hardback books like 1st AD&D books, white wolf hardback, etc. The only box sets I can fit in these are thin < 2" like Night of The Vampire box set. I can't get BECMI size boxes or comparable to fit in these.
Life Magazine Bags (11 1/8 x 15 1/8) - These bags work for the BECMI box sets or anything upto ~2.5". Gamma World boxes, Ruins of Undermountain I, etc.
Newspaper Sleeves (12x16 or 12x19) - These bags work for the larger box sets, 3" thickness or more but usually they don't get much bigger than that. A DCC box set maybe.

Other thoughts. I only buy the "resealable" ones for magazine size and thick magazine size. They don't work well with the book and box size sleeves IMO. Also, I find that once you leave the Thick Magazine size for larger sleeves, they are never perfect. Although they work well for the box sets and hardbacks they always seem a little too big as they are not quite intended for the application we are using.  Hope that helps more.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:44 pm 
 

I've been lectured a few times when I inquired at game/comic stores about storing items... one of the comments that I came away with was that bags are not intended to protect books from humidity.

Personally, I can't see that they hurt, but I'd be careful about relying on them.  A good dehumidifier or a/c would be your best bet.


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:51 pm 
 

I agree but unless you live in the rain jungle, storing books inside a somewhat temperature controlled environment, away from the sun for fading and in archival bags for dirt and wear is pretty much as good as you need. That should keep the book/paper in its current condition for long after you (you being general no one specific) are dead. If you want them preserved for thousands of years then humidity control is essential and even then it won't last forever.

  

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Wow!! thank you guys, honestly


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:50 am 
 

Another option. These guys provide good service
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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:03 am 
 

I don't mean to sidetrack this but if you want to record specific information about an item, how do you do it? For example, I have a module that is signed but it isn't obvious from the outside.  Do you put notes on the back of the backer board? Insert a slip of paper or index card? Computer database (nudge to Throwi)?

I'd like to include purchase price and information as well so it would be great if it is something that could be printed.

I'm just curious what others have found that works well.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:09 pm 
 

cdenham wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:I don't mean to sidetrack this but if you want to record specific information about an item, how do you do it? For example, I have a module that is signed but it isn't obvious from the outside.  Do you put notes on the back of the backer board? Insert a slip of paper or index card? Computer database (nudge to Throwi)?

I'd like to include purchase price and information as well so it would be great if it is something that could be printed.

I'm just curious what others have found that works well.


Excel spreadsheet works best, but for an old school feel, just drop a 3x5 card between the backer board and the bag with the essentials written on it.

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:29 pm 
 

cabala wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:
d3rmond wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:Thank you guys!

What kind/size of sleeve should I use to protect the BECMI boxes and the typical thicker ad&d boxed sets?

I am planning on moving to the coast and I am scared of humidity warping my dear material.



So I took a look at my different size sleeves last night and then measured some of the various boxes. I am at work now and going off memory so please excuse me if I get something backwards.

I buy all my bags from BCWsupplies, but there are other sources.

Magazine Bags (8 3/4 x 11) - Most standard modules or books up to ~64 pages.
Magazine Bags, Thick (8 7/8 x 11) - Most softcover books and some thinner hardbacks (e.g., complete player handbooks, monstrous compendiums, white wolf type books, supermodules etc.)
Book Magazine Bags (10 x 13) - These work for hardback books like 1st AD&D books, white wolf hardback, etc. The only box sets I can fit in these are thin < 2" like Night of The Vampire box set. I can't get BECMI size boxes or comparable to fit in these.
Life Magazine Bags (11 1/8 x 15 1/8) - These bags work for the BECMI box sets or anything upto ~2.5". Gamma World boxes, Ruins of Undermountain I, etc.
Newspaper Sleeves (12x16 or 12x19) - These bags work for the larger box sets, 3" thickness or more but usually they don't get much bigger than that. A DCC box set maybe.

Other thoughts. I only buy the "resealable" ones for magazine size and thick magazine size. They don't work well with the book and box size sleeves IMO. Also, I find that once you leave the Thick Magazine size for larger sleeves, they are never perfect. Although they work well for the box sets and hardbacks they always seem a little too big as they are not quite intended for the application we are using.  Hope that helps more.



Great info!  Thanks!  I wonder if we could get these kind of recommendations added to the Front Desk?


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cdenham wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:I don't mean to sidetrack this but if you want to record specific information about an item, how do you do it? For example, I have a module that is signed but it isn't obvious from the outside.  Do you put notes on the back of the backer board? Insert a slip of paper or index card? Computer database (nudge to Throwi)?

I'd like to include purchase price and information as well so it would be great if it is something that could be printed.

I'm just curious what others have found that works well.


Ah, Craig has let slip one of my side projects - no worries man, it's really not a secret.  But it is active and growing each week.

First, to answer the general question:  I use a small sticker on the outside of the bag to denote print #, condition, and signatures.  I don't do this for every book but do so for the higher $ ones or special versions.

Back to the side project - I'm a database administrator and developer by trade.  I love information and collect it in every way.  Heck, when my wife starts talking about a house project or idea, I start building tables and columns in my mind.  Relational databases are my porn.  :-)

On and off, I've been working on a book collecting database with a PHP front end.  I'm still primarily in the table design phase, with a few SQL queries to ensure proper data relationships.  No actual coding (front or back end) has been started.  I have around 40 tables or so roughed out and will begin building simple transactional code soon.  This database could eventually be available online for others to store collection info.  It will be designed to be as detailed as you like, e.g. use a stock photo or your own, condition code or condition notes, etc.  

It's important to note that it's not meant to be a replacement for anybody else's website, but a place for a collector to log their own collection(s)... I'm doing it primarily for myself - it will be great for insurance purposes and quick searching of information.  I can share parts or all of my collection to the world or make it entirely private - that is, if it ever goes beyond my home server.  If I had enough interest, I'd push it out to the world for people to use but that's a ways off.  I'm still in the early phases of work; plus, I have a day job, family, and write books and I'm putting out a new internet game in 2016 after 10 years of development!

But Craig, if I finish it, I'll get you access!  :-)

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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 2:50 pm 
 

throwi wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:Ah, Craig has let slip one of my side projects - no worries man, it's really not a secret.  But it is active and growing each week.


Apologies, mate!  I wasn't trying to let any goodies out of the bag.  Just a friendly nudge was all.   :wink:

throwi wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:But Craig, if I finish it, I'll get you access!  :-)

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Thank you, sir! I can certainly use all the help I can get.  We are in the midst of a full house remodel which means I just had to move my entire collection from room(s) to room(s) as the contractor worked in each location.  Now my semi-mixed up collection is nearly completely randomized.   :(  :oops:

Back on subject, I agree it would be great to have some of this information pinned. I know the vast majority here are collectors but its great to get the pointers from the *professional* collectors.

Thom, you mentioned plastic magazine storage boxes that were better than the cardboard ones.  Did you get those from the same place?


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:25 pm 
 

Yes, here's the link to those boxes:

https://www.bagsunlimited.com/p-3841-ma ... gated.aspx

I have dozens of these.

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cdenham wrote in Archival sleeves for D&D modules:
Apologies, mate!  I wasn't trying to let any goodies out of the bag.  Just a friendly nudge was all.   :wink:



No worries.  At some point, I'd have to solicit for ideas anyway.  :-)

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Back on subject, I agree it would be great to have some of this information pinned. I know the vast majority here are collectors but its great to get the pointers from the *professional* collectors.



Yeah.  How well this gets made depends on interest.  If it's just for me and/or a couple of folks, then it might be a simplistic tool.  If there's more interest than just a few, it might grow into something else... it's too early to know yet but it's possible it can end up as a fairly sophisticated tool.  It's being designed with tons of features that can be "turned on" if need be but starting with a simple default starter build.

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