Down in the Dungeon or Zarakan's Dungeon
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:52 pm 
 

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I really should learn to search here before I post silly questions....  :oops:
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I wonder if anyone knows of an actual Adventure by the Name; Zarakan's Lair (or Zarakan's Dungeon).



I got this book from a large E-Bay Auction lot a while ago and just now got to look through it.




** expired eBay auction **




Irony here: Publisher was (Still is) located less than 35 miles from my house.

I bought this from a Chesterton, IN  seller.



Down in the Dungeon

Copyright 1981, 79 pages of artwork/sketches.

It is a pictographic representation of a fantasy adventuring party (at least 10 different PCs, probably more) going through Zarakan's Dungeon.

Each page shows either the enemies faced or the adventuring party delving in the Dungeon in the order of advancement through the dungeon by the adventurers.

Four pages show many various weapons used, and/or seen through the adventure.





All the artwork is by Don Greer.

Not sure what Rob Stern added to the books contents.

(Perhaps he wrote the actual Dungeon that was sketched by Don Greer)



At the bottom right of the last scan, you will see the Gold Dragon protecting what looks like the main treasure vault.

But beyond that vault there is something more.......

See the tunnel leading to the right from that room.... 8O



Might this person (Don Greer) be the same Don Greer who was an illistrator/Animator for the following TV Cartoons?

Dungeons and Dragons

Spider Man

Defenders of the Earth

Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors

Make way for Noddy



Squadron/Signal Publications is still in business and has a web site:



http://www.squadronsignalpublications.com/



Note the Black Falcon Logo at the top of the home page of the site linked above is the same as on the front cover of the book below.



1115 Crowley Drive

Carrollton, TX 75006-1312

USA



The Address listed as contact for the web site is the same as in the book on the Copyright page so there is no doubt its the same company.

But I saw nothing on the site that makes me think they publish anything that is not related to (or taken directly from) Flying and/or Air War games.



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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:42 pm 
 

I like the look of that. I take it then (having checked the other thread) its not a module/dungeon then?


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:56 pm 
 

ashmire13 wrote:I like the look of that. I take it then (having checked the other thread) its not a module/dungeon then?


Nope, not an actual adventure....

Looking through the pages it seems to be a running story (told through sketches) of the dungeon delvers adventures through Zarakan's Dungeon.

I suspect that the dungeon was a home brew by Rob Stern (and/or Don Greer) and was never actually published or if so, on a very limited basis.
I have never heard of it, but still I find it VERY odd that this sketchbook would be published with no thought to publishing the Adventure also.

Rob Stern has several published books, all through Squadron/Signal.
All of them are about WWII and/or War Planes.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:00 pm 
 

The impression that I always had for this book was that you would write the adventure yourself on the blank pages opposite each picture.  The blank pages are also labeled so you know what part you are at.

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:21 pm 
 

Yeah. I got the impression that it was stack of illustrations for each location, and an over all map, and that you wrote it yourself based on the illustrations and map.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:06 pm 
 

I think I can agree with that....

But why would there be no explanation given?
Looking at the illustrations and the very short descriptions (most are 1-2 words) on the otherwise blank opposite page I can see that you could get that impression, it does make some sense.

I do agree that some of the illustrations give a hint to its location.
And some are obvious;
Like "The Guardian" on page 7.
A monster that guards the cave entrance at the start.
In that sketch you see skies and mountains with some trees in the distant background, just beyond the cave mouth.
That is the only sketch with an above ground setting shown.
And of course the next one too (Page 9), as it is labeled THE ENTRANCE....
The Gold Dragon is also quite easily placed at the end too.... :lol:

Those all match the large two page sketch that shows those in relation to the rest of the dungeon.

Upon looking more closely at the larger map sketch at the front.
Every full page monster sketch seems to be placed (in smaller detail) on the map sketch.
Some are tough to locate, but it appears that most of them (possibly all) are there.
I think I have even located Neutral Ground.... (pages 40-41)

But some of the rest of the sketches would require some speculation at best.

If this book was intended to be an actual adventure scenario, then the DM running this one would need to do a LOT of filling in.
In fact all of it. 8O

The more I look at the book the more I like it.....
I think wit some work; it would be a really fun one to do from the looks of it.
What PC Levels do you think they would need to be?
My guess would be a minimum of 6-8 PCs averaging 7th level for old school D&D.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:38 pm 
 

It just has the right look to it, if you know what I mean.  Will have to add that to my want list.

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:14 am 
 

Nice pictures.

It has a Greco-Roman feel to it, but also an Illefarn look as well (as some old-and-burried past empire).

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