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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:55 am 
 

How much is an opened but pristine OB3 going for these days?  I had a buyer for mine who made his own offer but he fell through so I'm curious what the going rate is.  There doesn't seem to be any recent copies up on eBay and none available at NKG (I didn't bother checking the Toad).  Thanks.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:53 am 
 

IIRC; The Toad has more than one copy but only has one listed at this time.
It has a starting price of $3,392.11 right now.
They began that one at something like $8,500 (more or less) about 2 years ago.
Since then they have continued to lower that price several times until now its listed at the price stated above.
Of course you cannot tell what the one they have for sale looks like as they have a stock photograph even for that expensive azzed item.
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About 15 months ago, a SWed copy sold on E-Bay for $3,050.
It appears that the Acaeum Valuation Board decided not to add that sale to the known sales list here.
The next week, I listed my SWed copy on E-Bay and it was bid up to $1,675, failing to reach my reserve.

A copy very recently sold (In a private sale) to Gus Landt for (+/-) $1,500 in May of this year.
I think that was the price since he posted a Classified Add on the Acaeum offering that much for a copy.
Apparently Gus was able to get one, since he had it displayed at the Reaper Store in a glass case during the Reaper Tour (NTRPGCON).
That copy looks to be in Near Mint Condition, maybe better.
Invinsible Overlord had some pictures taken of him buying it for $10 from the Owners of Reaper.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:53 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:
About 15 months ago, a SWed copy sold on E-Bay for $3,050.
It appears that the Acaeum Valuation Board decided not to add that sale to the known sales list here.


We didn't?  Interesting.  

Do you happen to have any back up to that?  I wasn't aware that you were privy to the inner workings of the VB.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:09 pm 
 

Gnat,

I blieve the auction you refer to is listed on the site:

B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (1st):  FN: $602 (5/00), FN: $666 (11/03), VF: $265 (4/02),
 VF/SW: $300 (8/98 ), VF/SW (slightly warped): $460 (9/98 ) , VF/SW (slightly warped): $100-
 (11/99), VF/SW (slightly warped): $3050* (3/08 ), NM: $650 (10/99), NM: $760 (11/99), NM:
 $800 (8/08, GenCon auction), NM/SW: $130 (7/95), NM/SW: $1375 (2/01), NM/SW: $688
 (12/01), NM/SW: $572 (1/02), NM/SW: $861 (3/02), NM/SW: $832 (5/02), NM/SW: $1325
 (10/02), NM/SW: $760 (8/03), NM/SW: $731 (11/03), NM/SW: $1201 (6/04)
B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (2nd-4th):  FN: $5 (3/00), NM/SW: $6 (3/03)
        * highest (confirmed) sale price of any single non-unique D&D module

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/b3.html

Prices seem to vary considerably for this item depending on who is in the market for one, but Mandalaymoon's question is still valid.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:17 pm 
 

smarmy1 wrote:Gnat,

I blieve the auction you refer to is listed on the site:

B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (1st):  FN: $602 (5/00), FN: $666 (11/03), VF: $265 (4/02),
 VF/SW: $300 (8/98 ), VF/SW (slightly warped): $460 (9/98 ) , VF/SW (slightly warped): $100-
 (11/99), VF/SW (slightly warped): $3050* (3/08 ), NM: $650 (10/99), NM: $760 (11/99), NM:
 $800 (8/08, GenCon auction), NM/SW: $130 (7/95), NM/SW: $1375 (2/01), NM/SW: $688
 (12/01), NM/SW: $572 (1/02), NM/SW: $861 (3/02), NM/SW: $832 (5/02), NM/SW: $1325
 (10/02), NM/SW: $760 (8/03), NM/SW: $731 (11/03), NM/SW: $1201 (6/04)
B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (2nd-4th):  FN: $5 (3/00), NM/SW: $6 (3/03)
        * highest (confirmed) sale price of any single non-unique D&D module

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/b3.html

Prices seem to vary considerably for this item depending on who is in the market for one, but Mandalaymoon's question is still valid.


While what you post is correct, it again needs to be noted that just because Foul has not included every auction on the history page, does not mean that it's not included in the VB valuations.

These two things are completely separate situations, 100% unaffiliated with one another.  I have literally over 50 1st print DMGs I've tracked over the last few years, as well as over 40 1st Print Monster Manuals, (etc., etc.)most of which are NOT listed on the history portion of the site, however all of which have been included in the valuations.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:49 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:While what you post is correct, it again needs to be noted that just because Foul has not included every auction on the history page, does not mean that it's not included in the VB valuations.


Absolutely.  I did not mean to imply that the data was either included or excluded from the valuations posted in the chart as I have no idea how the valuation board compiles and derives its calculations.  Sorry if that was not clear.  (One day we will pierce that inner veil... One day... :))

Also, for the more common, rare items (oxymoron), the individual pages would possibly become unreadable with all the entries.


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:07 pm 
 

smarmy1 wrote:
Absolutely.  I did not mean to imply that the data was either included or excluded from the valuations posted in the chart as I have no idea how the valuation board compiles and derives its calculations.  Sorry if that was not clear.  (One day we will pierce that inner veil... One day... :))

Also, for the more common, rare items (oxymoron), the individual pages would possibly become unreadable with all the entries.

Oh, I know you weren't. :)

I was more building off your point to help again put to rest the misconception that just because it doesn't appear in the "Auction History" portion of the site, does not mean that it's valuation was not included.

For some reason, people keep falling into that trap.


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:04 am 
 

A shrinked one would go for about $1,500, give or take. Opened, probably $1,200, again give or take.


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:06 am 
 

I did indeed recently buy a near mint opened B3 for $1500. However, I doubt one would go for that much on the open market. There is a big difference between what something will sell for, and what you have to offer to get one from people not actively looking to sell.  I just got sick of waiting for one, and I got no offers when I posted my offer for $1200, so I jumped up to $1500 in hopes of getting someone to part with it.

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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:53 am 
 

Hey, if they drop much more, I will prop the market a bit and start to buy some of them.   I was planning to jump in next spring anyway! :D

Oh, I hope I didn't catch the STD (shrinkie transmitted disease) from Smarmy last week!  :oops:  Symptoms include elevated heart rate, sweaty palms, dilation of pupils    :twisted:  

Or, worse... the SDR "seller defined rareitus"  Symptoms include inability to determine if something is actually rare, or simply hoarded off the market by saavy resellers.  :evil:


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:59 am 
 

Pipswich wrote:Oh, I hope I didn't catch the STD (shrinkie transmitted disease) from Smarmy last week!  :oops:  Symptoms include elevated heart rate, sweaty palms, dilation of pupils    :twisted:  


LMAO  :D  :D  :D

Pip, unfortunately with STD there is only a treatment but no cure.  You will remain infectious to all other collectors you come in contact with for the rest of your life and would be well advised to bag and board your shrink to minimize the risk of infecting others especially those who might handle your collection unknowingly. ;)

I would agree with Whale Tagger that the range for an OB3 was somewhere between $1200 and $1500, but with the economic reset we seem to have experienced I would guess the prices would be in the $900 to $1200 range with the shrink items holding their value a little better.


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:30 pm 
 

smarmy1 wrote:Gnat,

I blieve the auction you refer to is listed on the site:

B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (1st):  FN: $602 (5/00), FN: $666 (11/03), VF: $265 (4/02),
 VF/SW: $300 (8/98 ), VF/SW (slightly warped): $460 (9/98 ) , VF/SW (slightly warped): $100-
 (11/99), VF/SW (slightly warped): $3050* (3/08 ), NM: $650 (10/99), NM: $760 (11/99), NM:
 $800 (8/08, GenCon auction), NM/SW: $130 (7/95), NM/SW: $1375 (2/01), NM/SW: $688
 (12/01), NM/SW: $572 (1/02), NM/SW: $861 (3/02), NM/SW: $832 (5/02), NM/SW: $1325
 (10/02), NM/SW: $760 (8/03), NM/SW: $731 (11/03), NM/SW: $1201 (6/04)
B3 Palace of the Silver Princess (2nd-4th):  FN: $5 (3/00), NM/SW: $6 (3/03)
        * highest (confirmed) sale price of any single non-unique D&D module

http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/b3.html

Prices seem to vary considerably for this item depending on who is in the market for one, but Mandalaymoon's question is still valid.

Yep... that is exactly the one.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Sorry guys. I missed it. :oops:

BKlarcie I did not intend to infer that the VB is not doing a great job.
And you are quite right; I have no clue what the VB discusses or what it even does and I never will.
And, Not being privy to the inner discussions of the valuation board I can only guess.
It is ya'lls job and its being done fine and has been for as long as I have been here.


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:40 pm 
 

But if you are a good boy, Gnat, you can be invited to the DOUBLE SECRET inner circle discussed some time ago.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:00 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:BKlarcie


Haven't had the pleasure of crossing paths with him yet, but let's give Larcie the benefit of the doubt.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:34 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:
Haven't had the pleasure of crossing paths with him yet, but let's give Larcie the benefit of the doubt.


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:40 pm 
 

Gnat the Beggar wrote:And you are quite right; I have no clue what the VB discusses or what it even does and I never will.
And, Not being privy to the inner discussions of the valuation board I can only guess.
It is ya'lls job and its being done fine and has been for as long as I have been here.


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