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Post Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:29 am 
 

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grodog wrote:Now that's interesting:  the heraldry is close to that of the city of Fax of the Wild Coast, per the GH folio, although the horizonal blue line between the diamonds isn't present in Fax's coat of arms.  I'll have to dig up my heraldry references to see what the line means---something like a house divided perhaps???


I thought too it might be Gygax family heraldry. Dave does not know.


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 1:53 am 
 

Just a note to add to the thread - while the price for the DMG is probably the highest price paid for a piece of VINTAGE gaming art, it doesn't "crush" the prices paid for other gaming art. A good friend of mine paid around $9k for Keith Parkinson's "Northwatch," which was a Dragon magazine cover, and I have it on good authority that the original Elmore Dragonlance covers sold several years ago for around $8k each. In addition, Clyde Caldwell's cover for the AD&D Forgotten Realms HC rule book sold for over $7k as well (don't remember exactly how much on that one). And, to top it all off, Brom sold his "The Lost Note" Dragon cover for $20k to some Hollywood type . . . .

Granted, gaming art doesn't have the level of respect that classic paperback or hardback covers do (Sanjulian, Boris, Frazetta, Jones, etc) but they are reaching respectible amounts these days.


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 3:20 pm 
 

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grodog wrote:Now that's interesting:  the heraldry is close to that of the city of Fax of the Wild Coast, per the GH folio, although the horizonal blue line between the diamonds isn't present in Fax's coat of arms.  I'll have to dig up my heraldry references to see what the line means---something like a house divided perhaps???


I thought too it might be Gygax family heraldry. Dave does not know.


Thanks Paul.  I've restarted the EGG Q&A on ENWorld, so hopefully we'll get some answers.  I'll report back here what I find out :D


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:08 am 
 

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tsrart wrote:Just a note to add to the thread - while the price for the DMG is probably the highest price paid for a piece of VINTAGE gaming art


Yes. I should have clarified that I was talking about "vintage" art. There are a number of Caldwell's, Elmore's, Easley's, and Parkinson's up on eBay every week for the past year and they never seem to sell. All are priced lower than $6,000 but still never sell. I guess I wouldn't know the more recent art values as vintage stuff is more my bag.

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:09 am 
 

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grodog wrote:Thanks Paul.  I've restarted the EGG Q&A on ENWorld, so hopefully we'll get some answers.  I'll report back here what I find out :D


Please post a link, eh?


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:19 am 
 

stormber wrote:Please post a link, eh?


Done:   Gary Gygax Q&A: part VII :D

PS:  it may be worthwhile for the Acaeum to link to the various archived threads in this series of threads---there's a lot of good info in them about EGG, the early development of D&D, some product-specific questions, etc.


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Post Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:43 am 
 

can you take a picture of the DMG painting and paladin and hell and post them here?

  


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:43 pm 
 

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draco76 wrote:can you take a picture of the DMG painting and paladin and hell and post them here?


I have some other responsibilities to take care of first but yes, eventually.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:17 am 
 

cool thanks

  


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:42 pm 
 

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I have some other responsibilities to take care of first but yes, eventually.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 2:23 pm 
 

I think stormber sold the DCS Paladin in Hell illustration in one of his Collector's Trove auctions for DCS.  It went for a pretty reasonable price compared to what it would probably fetch today.  I don't recall who won it either.  I believe stormber still has the DMG cover painting.  It would easily top $10,000 if he decided to auction it.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:28 am 
 

VermilionFire wrote:I think stormber sold the DCS Paladin in Hell illustration in one of his Collector's Trove auctions for DCS.  It went for a pretty reasonable price compared to what it would probably fetch today.  I don't recall who won it either.  I believe stormber still has the DMG cover painting.  It would easily top $10,000 if he decided to auction it.


I may chip in to the retirement fund for that one.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:36 am 
 

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I may chip in to the retirement fund for that one.


Yeah, I think quite a few of us would, it's certainly a holy grail for me and I'm sure for many others.   :D

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:34 am 
 

The Monster Manual cover is our Holy Grail. Although, we would have to come up with some extra cash if any old covers like this hit Ebay.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:24 pm 
 

burntwire brothers wrote:The Monster Manual cover is our Holy Grail. Although, we would have to come up with some extra cash if any old covers like this hit Ebay.


The original DCS one?  I seem to remember DCS talking about it before stormber's auctions of his stuff.  I think he gave it away because he actually didn't like it.  
The Easley Monstrous Manual cover is on eBay now for only a $1,500 opening bid.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:00 pm 
 

The Easley Monsrous Manual cover was listed on Worlds of Wonder for around $1250 not long ago.

From what I have heard Gary Gygax has the Monster Manual cover(not confirmed).

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:09 pm 
 

burntwire brothers wrote:The Easley Monsrous Manual cover was listed on Worlds of Wonder for around $1250 not long ago.

From what I have heard Gary Gygax has the Monster Manual cover(not confirmed).


And I believe Gygax has the Trampier PHB cover as well.  If those ever get put on the auction block, there will be a frenzy.   :D

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:07 pm 
 

Nope - I know who owns the DCS MM cover, and it's not Gygax. It's also definitively NFS . . . .

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