Kingofpain89 wrote:I dont presume to think I understand why Doug wants to own every single Dragon #1 in existence. But I honestly don't think it has anything to do with him "protecting his investment", "cornering the market", or anything similar. I've met Doug, and although I dont know him very well, I think he is a pretty decent guy and I am usually pretty spot on with first impressions. Badmike has vouched for him and has spent a lot more time with him than I have so he would know better than I would. Course he could be a cannibalistic serial-killer and Mike is his next meal for all the good my intuition does me.I respect what you say and think Brian. You have spent a lot of time defending this hobby and this forum from people that try to exploit it and its members. For the most part, it is a pretty thankless and time-consuming job...one that most people have no desire to take part in. When you are right everyone praises you, but on the flip side, if you are wrong about someone, those people who were praising you before are now keeping their distance. Nice double-edged sword there eh?That said, I wish you guys would just drop the whole thing. For one....it makes you both look like you are involved in nothing more than a pissing contest. I am not going to try and defend what Doug does because I dont know his mind. But with all the venom pointed in his direction, it wouldnt surprise me if he was just buying up Dragon #1's just to get you riled up. If that is indeed the case, and I hope it isn't, it is definitely working.I give Badmike a hard time about some of his prices on a monthly basis. I have also made several comments about how looney I think of some of Doug's prices are. But in the end, it is none of my business how anyone decides to price their items...so I just have to let it go. Maybe you should just do the same. At least stop calling him Coug Jr. I dont think Doug deserves to be lumped in with Dave Whitfield. Douchebag Dave is in a class all by himself.Or you could tell me to blow it out my ass because I dont know what I am talking about.....either or is fine with me.
bclarkie wrote:Well here is my final say on this for now. First off, as long as Doug keeps buying Dragon #1s they will be posted here. If Doug doesn't like the fact that I post every single one of his Dragon #1s he wins, that is his problem not mine. He can either stop buying them all and let someone else win one every once in awhile or he can ignore me. Either way its a win-win situation. Again its not just the number of copies he has bought, its the prices that he has been shelling out for them versus what the market for them has been. If he was buying them all at $100 a piece it would be one thing, as the value on them is a lot higher than that. But he's not. He is buying them at the top end of the scale to ensure that they go for what he "thinks" that they should go for or he wins. That is where I have the problem.Secondly, I do find it kind of interesting to see how people hold one person to a one set of standards, while others we don't even though they are doing the exact same thing. Don't believe me? Do a forum search on the terms "Cougar" and "H1" or "Bloodstone" or creep1962 and see how different certain peoples reactions are to those things. Lets just say its, "educational". Its really easy to ignore it all as long as he isn't buying up all of what you want, but its funny when the shoe is on the other foot and one person is buying up all of a particular item that you want when it suddenly becomes not-so "okay" anymore.
Kingofpain89 wrote:It's actually kinda funny....a couple of years ago when creep1962 started buying up every uncommon or rare item he could get his hands on to resell them for a significant markup, just about everyone on this forum, including myself, was ready to go to war with the guy. The fucked up thing about it was....he was right. A couple of years too early but all of those R and RPGA series modules he bought have doubled in value since then. Sure he was an idiot about it at the time, lied about who he was, and he is a horrible seller, but if he had put them in a box somewhere and pulled them out today, half the people on this forum would be falling over themselves to snatch them up.
Kingofpain89 wrote:So the Coug tried to "corner" the H1 market a few years back. Did it work? No....and if Doug were actually trying to corner the market on Dragon mags it wouldnt work with that either. I dont know what Doug scored on his SAT's but I guarantee he isnt that stupid.
Kingofpain89 wrote: It is obvious, and he has said as much in a previous post, that the main reason he is buying them is just to piss you off.
Kingofpain89 wrote: It seems to be working very well too. The ironic thing Brian is that you had a hand in creating the very problem you are seeking to resolve.
Kingofpain89 wrote: So why dont both of you just stop? If youre not going to then how about using PM's to call each other names so the rest of us dont have to deal with the vile banter anymore. It's old, it's tired, and both of you have more to offer this forum than your obvious dislike for one another. Get over yourselves already!!!
bclarkie wrote:And here I didn't want to fight within anyone else(especially someone who I have been on the same side as many times in the past) in this matter, but I guess I have no choice.
Center_Stage_Hobbies wrote:Doug very decently sold me some items I needed at prices that I liked.
bclarkie wrote:I should probably also note, that I have toned down my actions here considerably over the last couple of months. With the exception of the Dragon #1 thing here in this thread and the Cougarrinard thing with Natalie last month(both of which which were effectively pre-existing issues as it was), I haven't posted anything new about shillers and what-not, nor do I intend to(despite seeing several possible examples on Ebay since then). Since the Natalie thing seems to have run its course, the only thing left is this, which pretty much means as soon as Doug here stops buying up all the Dragon #1s, then I won't be posting about any of this stuff any more.
bombadil wrote:Likewise, Doug cut me a pretty good deal on his PoVQ, far below what he had it listed for on ebay. Plus, he did a solid job of packing it, and followed through on my meticulous instructions for shipping it to my State-side contact. I was very pleased with the whole deal.
ScketreWhisp wrote:Bombadil... some items like the PotVQ I place on eBay at a higher price not to sell, but for "advertisement" since very rare items seem to draw a crowd
Badmike wrote:Really? Wow, LUCKY US! Mike B.
bclarkie wrote:Kingofpain89 wrote: So the Coug tried to "corner" the H1 market a few years back. Did it work? No....and if Doug were actually trying to corner the market on Dragon mags it wouldnt work with that either. I dont know what Doug scored on his SAT's but I guarantee he isnt that stupid. Was he able to successfully corner the market on H1? No, you are right he wasn't. that said, do you honestly believe that his continuous jacking up the price on them has not had an affect on the value of them even still today? You bet your ass it has. Cougarrinard is one of the primary reasons that complete H1s typical exceed $100 at auction even today. Its not the only reason albiet, but its a big one. There are several other comparable modules out there with counters including B10 which may in fact be borh harder to find complete then H1 and is a superior adventure by just about anyone's standards and yet consistantly falls well short of the $100 range in auctions. The common denomintor in this is Cougar and not much else.
bclarkie wrote:Hi Mike, Why don't you go hang out with Sea to Sky Games, because he was such a swell guy that you vouched for too.
Badmike wrote:I'm starting to see a common denominator here...Mike B.
bclarkie wrote:You're right of course. It's funny though that the common denominator here seems to be you keep "vouching" for people who aren't turning out to be so great....
Badmike wrote: I honestly don't know who you are thinking you are helping by harping on the fact he's buying up Dragon #1s. Mike B.