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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:45 pm 
 

Any opinions of the value of this item? Even after reading the Acaeum grading article I am still not 100% sure what grade this falls under.
I used it for several years until switching to second edition rules. The errata sheet is still inside the front cover, but all of the errate entries are lightly penciled into the appropriate places throughout the book.
The only other writing is my name on the flyleaf.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:48 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:39 pm 
 

Fair.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:42 pm 
 

Thanks,
I was thinking along the lines that a case could be made for "Good" as it states.

"Shows heavy wear, but is still solid."

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:44 pm 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:Thanks,
I was thinking along the lines that a case could be made for "Good" as it states.

"Shows heavy wear, but is still solid."

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I think it would be a stretch to call it a good.  That book is really used well.  It may be solid but the overall use makes it drop a grade.

It is a fair.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:27 pm 
 

I have to disagree.  I would grade it as Good.

The stitching/spine look pretty intact from the photos, and I think that's important for hardcovers.  (If the stitching/spine was loose, I'd go with Fair as well.)

In any event, I'd recommend not listing a grade at all if you're putting this on eBay.  Describe all the markings and let the pictures do the talking, instead.  Listing precise grades below VG never helps, because nobody is looking for a "Fair" 1st printing... ;)

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:46 pm 
 

how about 'cherished'?! :lol:

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:50 pm 
 

fair to middling.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:51 pm 
 

fair-good probably. is the dark cover staining only dirt?

nobody is looking for a "Fair" 1st printing... will buy for the errata sheet instead

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:32 pm 
 

The dark staining (skin oils probably) is just from a few years of handling, many times per week and being in a 20 pound bag of game books and binders. It is not mold or mildew and there is no odor.

In the early 80's I worked nights from midnight to 8 AM so I always had evenings free to drop into a gaming session and either play or run (we had a regular group of about 8-12 people).

I like the "cherished" line, how about the ones that used car dealers are using "experienced" or "pre-owned"...   :lol:

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:25 pm 
 

Interesting that the errata sheet doesn't include the Vampire erratum....


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:46 pm 
 

Grodog said:
Interesting that the errata sheet doesn't include the Vampire erratum....


I just compared my scanned picture to the one listed under Monster Manual on Acaeum and they are identical.

Was there another one issued with errata for Vampires? Perhaps that was when the errata was printed in the Dragon (can't remember which issue).

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:34 pm 
 

grodog wrote:Interesting that the errata sheet doesn't include the Vampire erratum....

When was the errata sheet produced?  The vampire wasn't corrected until after the 3rd printing, IIRC.  The troll was corrected after the 1st, but it isn't mentioned, either.  :?

[edit](Oops.  The answer is at the bottom of the "Monster Manual" page -- sometime between the 1st & 2nd MM printings.)

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:52 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:Listing precise grades below VG never helps, because nobody is looking for a "Fair" 1st printing... ;)


This is very true. But nobody is looking to buy something described as Good when it really Fair.

Just avoid the terms and describe the imperfections exactly. Leave it up to the buyer to decide what the condition is.

A first print generally gets the benefit of the doubt because of its scarcity. People will pay more just to have it, even if it is damaged. Just hype the first printing Lizard Logo and errata sheet.


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:47 pm 
 

I've got a copy of this (which my brother had originally) and it looks in better condition than the one shown here. Are these worth anything anymore, because I have a near mint (as I would see it) of the Fiend Folio hardback as well.

Would be interested to hear what they are worth really... Thanks in advance!  :D


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:52 pm 
 

What is the errata sheet, and was it originally included with the 1st print MM?  I've read the research section here, but for some reason haven't been able to determine whether it was actually included with the 1st print book.

I've got two minty copies of 1st print MMs, but neither has the errata sheet.  Is it something that was copied from a Dragon issue?


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:02 pm 
 

Ah, attention to detail...(clearly not a collector myself).

Mine is a 1978 3rd edition paperback with no errata listings. That probably blows its value out of the water


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:10 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:What is the errata sheet, and was it originally included with the 1st print MM?  I've read the research section here, but for some reason haven't been able to determine whether it was actually included with the 1st print book.

I've got two minty copies of 1st print MMs, but neither has the errata sheet.  Is it something that was copied from a Dragon issue?


I got the same errata sheet with my 1st print MM too.  I think it shows up with 1st prints that were probably sold at the end of the run.

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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:28 pm 
 

Mars wrote:I think it shows up with 1st prints that were probably sold at the end of the run.


I was wondering why an errata sheet would be in a 1st print, but if they were inserted into later runs of the 1st print, that would make sense.


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:51 pm 
 

The errata sheet was with the MM when I received it.

Since it was not available at any local stores when it was released, I prevailed upon the kindness of an aunt of mine living in downtown Montreal.

She lived about three blocks from a game store and I had her pick it up and send it to me by bus (Voyageur to SMT). I picked it up as soon as it arrived and the there within the front cover was the errata sheet. I assumed that it had been placed there by TSR and not the game store, but the only other one that I have personally seen since then belonged to a friend who picked up their first edition MM in Halifax.

To be quite honest, with the amount of use that I got out of that book, I am rather surprised that I never lost the errata sheet, or used it for scrap paper.

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