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Post Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 6:55 am 
 

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just a simple question that requires, i suppose, a complex reply?

what are the best means to appraise correctly an item of 2nd edition related to a particular setting?

are there any sites that works as acaeum works for early printings?

do you rely on your knowledge?



...this is smthing that created me a lot of problems in the past on ebay...



just as an example, but i heard that vecna reborn is uncommon to find (if not properly rare!)... but what is its estimated value (obvoiusly according to its conditions)?



an other example: what about players secrets of of hogunmark? afaik only a pre-publication has been issued (just before TSR had been bought by WOTC)... then it should be a rare item, isn't it? but what is its value?



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Post Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:11 am 
 

aia wrote:just a simple question that requires, i suppose, a complex reply? what are the best means to appraise correctly an item of 2nd edition related to a particular setting? are there any sites that works as acaeum works for early printings? do you rely on your knowledge?


There are a few other useful reference sites out there, but they don't generally have any value information associated with them.  Check under the Resources links @ http://www.acaeum.com/links/resources.html

just as an example, but i heard that vecna reborn is uncommon to find (if not properly rare!)... but what is its estimated value (obvoiusly according to its conditions)?


I haven't heard that it's particularly rare, though the 2e Vecna modules usually sell for $10-25 or so IIRC.

aia wrote:an other example: what about players secrets of of hogunmark? afaik only a pre-publication has been issued (just before TSR had been bought by WOTC)... then it should be a rare item, isn't it? but what is its value?


Sorry, I can't help you on that one.  Is it Birthright??


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:55 am 
 

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Sorry, I can't help you on that one.  Is it Birthright??


yes its birthright. you only see it crop up prb no more than 2-3 times a year (well in the last year its been that many - 3) - i got one for about $25 which i thought was quite a good price, as they normally go for more than that, but you do see a stray one get under the radar.

i seem to remember BTB getting one a while ago?

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:18 am 
 

I bought a Hogunmark from Noble Knight last year for $25 as well.

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Post Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:08 pm 
 

Here are some "estimates".  These are my own, based on my own experience.  Sometimes these sell for more, sometimes less . . . but they are a fair approximation of what I would sell them for on ebay (assuming at least VF - NM condition).  I'm not the cheapest source of RPG items . . . but I'm certainly not the most expensive.

Forgotten Realms:  

Campaign Setting - $18
Kara-Tur - $40
Ruins of Undermountain - $30
Ruins of Undermountain II - $40
Menzoberranzan - $30
The Horde $15
City System $10
City of Splendors - $15
Ruins of Zhentil Keep - $18
Elminster's Ecologies - $10
Spellbound - $18
The North - $50
Netheril - $10
Lands of Intrigue - $20
Cities of Mystery - $8
Empires of the Shining Sea - $15
Maztica - $15


9297 FOR1 Draconomicon - $8
9326 FOR2 The Drow of the Underdark - $8
9346 FOR3 Pirates of the Fallen Stars - $8
9390 FOR4 The Code of the Harpers - $35
9430 (FOR5) Elves of Evermeet - $8
9475 (FOR6) The Seven Sisters - $8
9487 (FOR7) Giantcraft - $8
9491 (FOR8) Pages From the Mages $6
9492 (FOR9) Wizards & Rogues of the Realms $7
9509 (FOR10) Warriors & Priests of the Realms $7
9547 (FOR11) Cult of the Dragon - - $8
11316 (FOR12) Demihumans of the Realms $7
11430 (FOR13) Secrets of the Magister - $8

9213 FR1 Waterdeep and the North -$8
9217 FR2 Moonshae  -$8
9224 FR3 Empires of the Sands  -$8
9229 FR4 The Magister $7
9233 FR5 The Savage Frontier  -$8
9235 FR6 Dreams of the Red Wizards  -$8
9252 FR7 Hall of Heroes $5
9267 FR9 The Bloodstone Lands $10
9274 FR10 Old Empires   -$8
9300 FR11 Dwarves Deep  -$8
9320 FR13 Anauroch $10
9351 FR14 Great Glacier $10
9373 FR15 Gold and Glory $5
9388 FR16 The Shining South $10

The Dalelands   -$8
Player's Guide to the F.R.   -$8
Atlas - $25
9410 Cormyr -15
9465 Book of Lairs   -$8
9474 The Moonsea  -$8
9520 The Vilhon Reach  -$8
9545 Prayers From the Faithful  -$8
9575 The City of Ravens Bluff $10
9589 Calimport $9
11348 Skullport $9
11393 Sea of Fallen Stars $9
11509 Drizz't Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark $9
11627 Cloak & Dagger $8
9525 Heroes' Lorebook $8
9552 Villains' Lorebook $8


9516 Faiths & Avatars $9
9563 Powers & Pantheons $9
09585 Demihuman Deities $9
9379 Volo's Guide to Waterdeep $7
9393 Volo's Guide to the North $7
9460 Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast $7
9486 Volo's Guide to Cormyr $7
9524 Volo's Guide to the Dalelands $7
9535 Volo's Guide to All Things Magical $7
11626 Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II $6
9358 Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue $15
9489 Elminster's Ecologies Appendix I  $4
9490 Elminster's Ecologies Appendix II $4

9301 FA1 Halls of the High King $7
9341 FA2 Nightmare Keep $7

9333 FMA1 Fires of Zatal $6
9340 FMA2 Endless Armies  $6

9349 FMQ1 City of Gold $8

9281 FRA1 Storm Riders $4
9290 FRA2 Black Courser $4
9304 FRA3 Blood Charge $4

9238 FRC1 Ruins of Adventure $6
9239 FRC2 Curse of the Azure Bonds $6

9247 FRE1 Shadowdale $8
9248 FRE2 Tantras $8
9249 FRE3 Waterdeep $10

9389 FRM1 Jungles of Chult $12

9307 FROA1 Ninja Wars $9
9242 OA5 Mad Monkey vs the Dragon Claw $9
9257 OA6 Ronin Challenge $9
9258 OA7 Test of the Samurai $9

9354 FRQ1 Haunted Halls of Eveningstar $8
9369 FRQ2 Hordes of Dragonspear $8
9391 FRQ3 Doom of Daggerdale $8
9283 LC1 Gateway to Ravens Bluff, The Living City $25
9282 LC2 Inside Ravens Bluff, The Living City $10
9316 LC3 Nightwatch in the Living City $10
9315 LC4 Port of Ravens Bluff $10


9484 The Sword of the Dales $6
9485 The Secret of Spiderhaunt $6
9488 The Return of Randal Morn $6

9519 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: The Lost Level $9
9528 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: Maddgoth's Castle $9
9538 Dungeon Crawl: Undermountain: Stardock $9
9562 Dungeon Crawl: Hellgate Keep $15
11622 Dungeon Crawl: The Dungeon of Death $15

9531 Four From Cormyr $8
9540 Arcane Age: How the Mighty Are Fallen $8
9544 Castle Spulzeer $8
9574 For Duty & Deity $8
9590 Kidnapped $8
11337 The Accursed Tower $9
11405 Wyrmskull Throne  $9

9444 Marco Volo Departure $6
9450 Marco Volo Journey $6
9455 Marco Volo Arrival $6


BIRTHRIGHT:

Player's Secrets of the Hogunmark: $25
(All other) Player's Secrets: $5
3101 Blood Enemies: Abominations of Cerilia $8
3147 Tribes of the Heartless Wastes $6

3117 The Book of Magecraft $15
3126 The Book of Priestcraft $15

3102 Sword and Crown $6
3110 Warlock of the Stonecrowns $6
3118 The Sword of Roele $6
3125 Legends of the Hero-Kings $6
3142 King of the Giantdowns $6

3100 Birthright Campaign Setting $20
3103 Cities of the Sun $10
3121 The Rjurik Highlands $10
3129 Havens of the Great Bay $10
3134 Naval Battle Rules: The Seas of Cerillia $12


Whew!  Okay . . . out of time for now . . . I can post more later if anyone is interested . . .


(thanks to the TSR archive/blackdougal for the copy/paste assistance  :D )


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:06 am 
 

Here are a few more general estimations . . .

Ravenloft:

2174 Domains of Dread $12
1053 Ravenloft Realm of Terror $12
1108 Ravenloft Campaign Setting $15
1079 Forbidden Lore $10
1088 Castles Forlorn $10
1103 Masque of the Red Death and Other Tales $12
1124 The Nightmare Lands $10
1141 Bleak House $10
1146 Requiem: The Grim Harvest $20
9494 A Light In the Belfry $10

9331 RR1 Darklords $5
9336 RR2 Book of Crypts $5
9348 RR4 Islands of Terror $5

9345 RR3 Van Richten's Guide to Vampires $5
9355 RR5 Van Richten's Guide to Ghosts $5
9412 RS1 (RR6) Van Richten's Guide to the Lich $6
9416 RR7 Van Richten's Guide to Werebeasts  $5
9417 (RR8) Van Richten's Guide to the Created $5
9451 (RR9) Van Richten's Guide to Ancient Dead $5
9477 (RR10) Van Richten's Guide to Fiends $6
9496 (RR12) Van Richten's Guide to the Vistani $5

11447 Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium Volume One $7
11507 Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium Volume Two $7
11613 Van Richten's Monster Hunter's Compendium Volume Three $7

9498 The Gothic Earth Gazetteer  $5
9529 A Guide to Transylvania $5


9510 Forged of Darkness  $6
9559 Champions of the Mists $6
11382 Carnival $12

9513 Children of the Night: Vampires  $6
9555 Children of the Night: Ghosts  $6
9583 Children of the Night: Werebeasts  $6
11360 Children of the Night: The Created  $6

2122 MC10 Monstrous Compendium  $6
2139 MC15 Monstrous Compendium II: Children of the Night $8
2162 Monstrous Compendium I & II  $6
2153 Monstrous Compendium III: Creatures of Darkness $8

9298 RA1 Feast of Goblyns  $5
9321 RA2 Ship of Horror  $5
9338 RA3 Touch of Death  $5

9413 RM1 Roots of Evil  $5
9414 RM2 The Created  $5
9415 RM3 Web of Illusion $6
9418 RM4 House of Strahd $8

9352 RQ1 Night of the Walking Dead $6
9364 RQ2 Thoughts of Darkness $6
9375 RQ3 From the Shadows  $6

1163 The Shadow Rift $5
9419 Dark of the Moon $5
9439 Adam's Wrath $5
9452 The Awakening $5
9456 Hour of the Knife $5
9466 Howls in the Night $5
9476 When Black Roses Bloom $12
9493 Circle of Darkness $6
9495 (RR11) Chilling Tales $6
9497 The Evil Eye $6
9499 Neither Man Nor Beast $6
9523 Death Unchained $6
9526 Death Ascendant $6
9537 The Forgotten Terror $6
9541 Servants of Darkness $6
9582 Vecna Reborn $25


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:52 pm 
 

Beyondthebreach wrote:Here are a few more general estimations . . .

And printers across the world begin printing copies of this thread . . .  :)

  

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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:23 am 
 

and what about lankhmar? afaik it is an AD&D line of products but it is not covered by the official listing of the acaeum...

referring to a general issue, why wasn't created a specific section dedicated only to AD&D/D&D particular settings? (...of course referred to 1st edition!)


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:39 am 
 

... one more question: i heard that "The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook" has higher value than other al-qadim items, why?

...and how is its general price?


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:56 am 
 

aia wrote:and what about lankhmar? afaik it is an AD&D line of products but it is not covered by the official listing of the acaeum...

referring to a general issue, why wasn't created a specific section dedicated only to AD&D/D&D particular settings? (...of course referred to 1st edition!)


Lankhmar is easy . . . everything is worth about $5 max . . . maybe $6 if in shrink.  Perhaps about $7 for the 2E City of Adventures book.


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Post Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:20 am 
 

aia wrote:... one more question: i heard that "The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook" has higher value than other al-qadim items, why?

...and how is its general price?


The Complete Sha'ir's handbook tends to go for around $10-15.  Though if you are patient, you will certainly find a deal around the $5 mark and every so often someone way overpays.

The reason is the same as with the Gladiator's handbook and Spacefarer's handbook . . . they are useful guides to expanding on Player Character classes and there is always a great deal of  interest in PC expansion options (just ask WotC  :D  )


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:29 am 
 

ciao guy, i forgot to thank you for the exhaustive list you posted!



but i'm here again with 2 auctions... i'm not sure if it does worth... as the seller says it seems to be a rare item...




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...what's your opinion?



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Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:40 am 
 

aia wrote:ciao guy, i forgot to thank you for the exhaustive list you posted!

but i'm here again with 2 auctions... i'm not sure if it does worth... as the seller says it seems to be a rare item...


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...what's your opinion?

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Ha ha!



I try to be a pretty nice guy  :wink:  , but maybe some others with more lashing tongues can give an opinion of this seller's auction.



I'll just say, that this is a rip-off and very deceitful auction description.  The Book of Regency of Legacy of Kings are both free PDF files that are downloadable from the Wizards of the Coast web site.  Apparently, the seller has "printed" them out himself  :roll:  and neglected to mention this . . .



Here is the link if you want them:



http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp? ... 20020121x5


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:04 am 
 

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Ha ha!

I try to be a pretty nice guy  :wink:  , but maybe some others with more lashing tongues can give an opinion of this seller's auction.

I'll just say, that this is a rip-off and very deceitful auction description.  The Book of Regency of Legacy of Kings are both free PDF files that are downloadable from the Wizards of the Coast web site.  Apparently, the seller has "printed" them out himself  :roll:  and neglected to mention this . . .

Here is the link if you want them:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x5


ok, i already knew it... but i though that this was a pre-print such as player's secrets of hogunmak (see on top of the topic)...

as far as i understand, you're telling me that these two pdf have never been printed?!?!  8O


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Post Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:03 pm 
 

aia wrote:... one more question: i heard that "The Complete Sha'ir's Handbook" has higher value than other al-qadim items, why?

...and how is its general price?


Sha'ir's Handbook at $3.00 with 3 hours remaining

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Beyondthebreach wrote:
The reason is the same as with the Gladiator's handbook and Spacefarer's handbook . . . they are useful guides to expanding on Player Character classes and there is always a great deal of interest in PC expansion options (just ask WotC Very Happy )




Gladiator's at $3.75 with 2 hours remaining


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Spacefarer's at $3.00 with 2 hours remaining


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Post Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:22 am 
 

Final prices:

Shai'ir's:  $11.61
Gladiator's: $9.53
Spacefarer's:  $6.15

The Spacefarer's goes for a little less and the buyer gets a good deal.  This item could have easily sold for more - $9.99 for the opening bid with a $16.00 BIN.  If it didn't sell, then relist it . . . it's very likely to sell within a few attempts.


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:23 am 
 

another item that i ran into an i don't know its real appraisal value:

Grayhawk Wars

is it rare or not?

...and (OT) what about Buck Rogers Boardgame? it has been issued by TSR in 1985... is it rare too?

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:02 am 
 

and what about the "Best of dragon magazine games" boxed set?

what's it value?


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:24 pm 
 

aia wrote:another item that i ran into an i don't know its real appraisal value:

Grayhawk Wars

is it rare or not?





I don't think it's very rare, meaning there always seem to be a couple on ebay.  I recently got $22.50 for mine:


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Post Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:45 pm 
 

Axel,



With the Greyhawk wars it is like most things on eBay, sometimes you get a deal, sometimes you don't.



Here was an auction for one that ended on July 25th with 17 bids ending at $72.00 US.




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In this case, the seller was having a good day  :lol:



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