Anyone have any idea what one of these is going for now?  I haven't seen a Bio One auctioned in ages.  I'm thinking of selling my copy because it's well, it's not D&D and it's just gathering dust.

Mike B.

grodog wrote:They seem to hit the $20-40 range, depending on printing and condition, Mike.

thanks Al, that sounds about right from what I remember....

Mike B.

red_bus wrote:what is it?

Bio One was one of the first ever official releases for the fledgling TSR Hobbies. First released in 1974, this slim (12 pages) booklet contained rules for hit location and damage for use with any shooting based system. The charts are very detailed and slightly complicated. I suspect it was initially used in games like the original Boot Hill or any wargame that wanted "realism" in man to man combat.  A curiousity more than anything else, the back cover products list is an intriguing glimpse into everything available at the time from TSR with prices ((anymore want the original Chainmail for $5 bucks?)

Mike B.

faro wrote:

Badmike wrote:Bio One was one of the first ever official releases for the fledgling TSR Hobbies. First released in 1974...
the back cover products list is an intriguing glimpse into everything available at the time from TSR with prices ((anymore want the original Chainmail for $5 bucks?)

Alas not, Mike. Just a boring old spiral bound-3rd edition

Any chance you could type up the full products list, please: I'm still curious to know what side of mid-1976 the TSR release date was.
And whether the two(?) printings do have differences there...

Of course, if you have a "GK" copy (pretty sure those don't exist), I'll happily stack up that $40 + $10, even though the usual prices I'd seen were more $15-20(?25)

Hey faro, I'll post scans of the front and back later tonight.  Pretty sure it's a later print, it's in very used shape. No GK, sorry.

Mike B.

Badmike wrote:Hey faro, I'll post scans of the front and back later tonight. Pretty sure it's a later print, it's in very used shape. No GK, sorry.

Front & back are good for selling. Stock list is good for research (hrmm... did that say "Boot Hill"?).

Thanks, Mike.
To restate, I really don't think a "GK" version exists. From a scan-through, there is no mention of the product in the 'zines prior to TD#14(!), although I've still to check the LWs, secondary literature, etc.
If it was written/published/whatever in 1974 it certainly wasn't by TSR, afaik. That would appear to be a copyright date in the context of the TSR publication.

grodog wrote:faro, if you're interested, I could certainly type up the products listing on the back of Warriors of Mars; it was released not too long after BioOne. Just let me know.

Or Allan you could just remove the burden of carring that thing around, with your move and all, and just sell it to me. I can then post that same information whenever I get it in the mail.

faro wrote:

grodog wrote:faro, if you're interested, I could certainly type up the products listing on the back of Warriors of Mars; it was released not too long after BioOne. Just let me know.

Please, Allan. Thanks for the offer

It was released (by TSR) before BioOne, tho'. (Unless they had a print run of half-a-dozen staff copies in 1974 with a GK logo )

How about my newly acquired GK Boot Hill.  Would that help?

Badmike wrote:

red_bus wrote:what is it?

Bio One was one of the first ever official releases for the fledgling TSR Hobbies. First released in 1974, this slim (12 pages) booklet contained rules for hit location and damage for use with any shooting based system. The charts are very detailed and slightly complicated. I suspect it was initially used in games like the original Boot Hill or any wargame that wanted "realism" in man to man combat. A curiousity more than anything else, the back cover products list is an intriguing glimpse into everything available at the time from TSR with prices ((anymore want the original Chainmail for $5 bucks?)

Mike B.

"Introduction

Bio One was created in 1974 to incorporate a degree of realism into a field of wargaming which was sorely lacking. Bio One provides a complete and accurate system of damage location and effects for any gunpowder period of warfare. Bio One will prove an interesting addition to any set of man-to-man rules which uses gun fire. Bio One may at first appear confusing, but by simply following the step-by-step procedure and trying a few sample applications, the system will be mastered in no time at all."

Materials

---Any set of man-to-man rules for a gunpowder period (i.e.; TSR's Boot Hill, etc)"

The mention of 1974 puts the original publication there, but there is no indication TSR was the first publisher.  The mention of Boot Hill seems to refer to the original publication since it's also listed on the back cover.

Mike B.

Badmike wrote:

Badmike wrote:

red_bus wrote:what is it?

Bio One was one of the first ever official releases for the fledgling TSR Hobbies. First released in 1974, this slim (12 pages) booklet contained rules for hit location and damage for use with any shooting based system. The charts are very detailed and slightly complicated. I suspect it was initially used in games like the original Boot Hill or any wargame that wanted "realism" in man to man combat. A curiousity more than anything else, the back cover products list is an intriguing glimpse into everything available at the time from TSR with prices ((anymore want the original Chainmail for $5 bucks?)

Mike B.

"Introduction

Bio One was created in 1974 to incorporate a degree of realism into a field of wargaming which was sorely lacking. Bio One provides a complete and accurate system of damage location and effects for any gunpowder period of warfare. Bio One will prove an interesting addition to any set of man-to-man rules which uses gun fire. Bio One may at first appear confusing, but by simply following the step-by-step procedure and trying a few sample applications, the system will be mastered in no time at all."

Materials

---Any set of man-to-man rules for a gunpowder period (i.e.; TSR's Boot Hill, etc)"

The mention of 1974 puts the original publication there, but there is no indication TSR was the first publisher. The mention of Boot Hill seems to refer to the original publication since it's also listed on the back cover.

Mike B.

Here is the back cover w/stock list:



Mike B.