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Post Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:39 pm 
 

I recently bought a job lot of AD&D items (mostly 2nd edition), and was looking at your website when I noted the high value of the AD&D Players Handbook. I checked off the list given on the website, and I am sure that it is a true first edition.

However, I am unsure of how I should give the condition (I am new to collecting). The cover is faded, with many light creases from use. All pages are present and in perfect condition. The spin is worn at the edes, and the bottom of the spine is slightly peeled off.

Any information on how much I can expect from this is much appreciated, as is any advice on how to sell it - ebay, advertising on forums, selling to second hand shops, etc.

Also, does anyone know of a good guide to the value of 2nd ed books (or a good trader I can sell them to).

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Post Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:02 pm 
 

A picture is worth a thousand posts. Can you put one up?


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Post Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:25 pm 
 

joth wrote:I checked off the list given on the website, and I am sure that it is a true first edition.

This statement scares the heck outta me, at least when I receive something similar from eBay sellers in response to my inquiries...

All the PHBs listed on this site are "AD&D 1st Edition".  Only one of them is a T1st printing.  

(The D&D basic sets, and AD&D 1st Ed. Monster Manuals are even more confusing, with their use of the word "Edition" in the text where they ought to have used "printing"...but I digress.)  As Deadlord stated, a picture would be very helpful.
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:21 pm 
 

Erm, I just got to this post after my own at Not-so-Recent Fun Finds • Page 34 • Collecting General •  The Acaeum
Interesting timing...

The 1st MM is certainly an easier spot with the "TM Reg Applied For" on the front cover.

A pic of the front cover (No yellow "Advanced D&D banner") and inside (white flyleaves/endpapers, not orange) would probably suffice.
The absence of the other printings on the copyright page is a "nice to have", but an academic point (unless there are other, yet unknown, printings floating around).

Are the T1st/1st PHBs really quite that "rare", or is the difficulty in IDing from front cover photo alone partly responsible for that impression?

joth wrote:The spin is worn at the edes, and the bottom of the spine is slightly peeled off.

Not so good, unfortunately...

Agreed with Frank; certainly sounds like decent photos and an honest description of faults would be a good idea.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:01 pm 
 

OK, so about a year and a half ago I stumbled across an actual true first printing PHB (It has the white flyleaf and dated June 2, 1978).  I would consider the condition to be fair to good.  So I was in Lake Gevena this last weekend at the first annual LGGC (Lake Geneva gaming Conference). Gary, along with a bunch of other icons were present (Kuntz & Ward to name a few).  Anyway, while I was there, I had the oppertunity to get my rare PHB signed by Gary himself (If I was thinking...I would have brought my near mint condition 1st printing of the Deities & Demigods and had both Kuntz & Ward sign it....Grrrrrrr).  

So my question is...what effect, if any, does the signature on this rare book have on the value of it?

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Post Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:33 pm 
 

halcyoneus wrote:OK, so about a year and a half ago I stumbled across an actual true first printing PHB (It has the white flyleaf and dated June 2, 1978). I would consider the condition to be fair to good. So I was in Lake Gevena this last weekend at the first annual LGGC (Lake Geneva gaming Conference). Gary, along with a bunch of other icons were present (Kuntz & Ward to name a few). Anyway, while I was there, I had the oppertunity to get my rare PHB signed by Gary himself (If I was thinking...I would have brought my near mint condition 1st printing of the Deities & Demigods and had both Kuntz & Ward sign it....Grrrrrrr).

So my question is...what effect, if any, does the signature on this rare book have on the value of it?

~Hal

Depends on who you ask, of course.  I'd say it neither increases nor decreases the value on average, simply widens the "margin of error" by 25-50%... ;)
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:35 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:
halcyoneus wrote:OK, so about a year and a half ago I stumbled across an actual true first printing PHB (It has the white flyleaf and dated June 2, 1978). I would consider the condition to be fair to good. So I was in Lake Gevena this last weekend at the first annual LGGC (Lake Geneva gaming Conference). Gary, along with a bunch of other icons were present (Kuntz & Ward to name a few). Anyway, while I was there, I had the oppertunity to get my rare PHB signed by Gary himself (If I was thinking...I would have brought my near mint condition 1st printing of the Deities & Demigods and had both Kuntz & Ward sign it....Grrrrrrr).

So my question is...what effect, if any, does the signature on this rare book have on the value of it?

~Hal



Depends on who you ask, of course. I'd say it neither increases nor decreases the value on average, simply widens the "margin of error" by 25-50%... ;)


Unless you give it to Stormber and have him auction it off under his Collector's Trove auctions. :wink:  That of course is unless people don't keep thinking that he is the Eastern Collectors Trove. :P


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:13 pm 
 

deimos3428 wrote:Depends on who you ask, of course. I'd say it neither increases nor decreases the value on average, simply widens the "margin of error" by 25-50%... ;)

Nicely hedged! :D

IMHO, presuming a generic, undated signature, a definite increase.

T1st in it's own right is good news, so people will be looking for them. However, this one's only "fair to good", so I'd be looking for "redeeming features" to make more than a token bid.
An EGG signature is pretty neat in that context; certainly enough to firm up the serious bids, if not boost it sky-high.

The "June 2nd 1978" date certainly doesn't detract given the overall condition and that it isn't any later.
  
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