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Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 8:31 pm 
 

Dang...  Did y'all catch the 3rd edition items today? Most brought in at least $100. Obviously the most expensive 3rd edition items from what I have seen.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3126839766  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3126840614  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=2545  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3126841384


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 8:45 pm 
 

Hmmm.... looks like Monte needs some cash.   :wink:  I picked up a similar pre-pub version of Forge of Fury a while back (around a year ago?).  Luckily, not as many folks were paying attention back then so I got it for around $30 or $40.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:03 pm 
 

WOW! Some crazy prices! I see that scott bidded on some items but yet he didn't update the website.......  Now I know why Devon isn't interested in buying my items.....he spent all his money on those!

  


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:17 pm 
 

I have a pre-press 3e PHB that I'd be willing to trade for some Thieves Guild stuff, if anyone's interested....


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:30 am 
 

So are those pre pub 3rd ed items the "holy grails" of 3rd edition items??? I've never seen any 3rd ed items go that high though I shouldn't be surprised when burnie bids! He always goes high.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:31 am 
 

While I think they are an interesting piece of D&D history, one problem with the collectability of the pre-press items is that they would be fairly easy to replicate at a copy store, Kinkos, etc. As they were not "professionally" printed it is difficult to tell an original from a duplicate. This is particularly the case with the spiral-bound items.  You are probably safe though buying directly from Monte  :wink:   -Curt CGOULD42

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:50 pm 
 

I was thinking about this string and which 3E items might obtain some collectable status and came up with the oversized 3E adventure game (TSR11951).  This item almost is exactly like the smaller version of the 3E adventure game (TSR11641) but was sent to stores for mostly display and demo purposes. This means it had a small print run, most were opened, and because of its larger size it is more prone to damage  (box size: 28.5cmx40cmx4.5cm)  Thoughts? Any others that someone can think of?   Cheers, Curt

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:48 pm 
 

RPGA/promo stuff like Caves of Shadow, The Fright at Tristor and the RPGA version of the Gazetteer are probably pretty safe bets, though there really doesn't seem to be too much interest at the moment.  Print runs are relatively small on most of the hardbacks, so there's always a chance that 1st prints may achieve some perceived collector's value as well.

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 10:17 pm 
 

One other which I had forgotten is the spcially printed copy of the 3E player's handbooks which indicated their owner's name in gold. This was a limited print as a gift for those people directly involved in the creation of 3E. Probably only around 100 were printed and each is unique.  Cheers, Curt

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 6:29 pm 
 

Anybody have some more info on these?  I just bought a lot where the seller had 3, and I'd at least like to make sure I didn't get ripped off.  Scans or pics would be a great help.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:57 pm 
 

Yes Curt is correct. Anyone with direct process with the creation of 3rd Edition recieved one. I can't remeber if it was only the PHB that was monogrammed with the name or the DMG too.
I didn't get one of these, but I did get a monogrammed SWRPG. It was a very nice gift for all the hard work we did for these products.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 3:02 am 
 

Hey guys, on the prepub 3E corebooks, can anybody give me any more details (for those of you who own them).  The set I have are loose-bound (bound with some sort of black tape stuff, forget what its called).  Heavy paper covers, PHB contents appear more or less printed off from the .qxd (Quark Xpress) file.  Unlike some of the other ones, it has the artwork in it, looks like its a much later working copy.  The file (for the PHB) is called T11550_620_00_3E_PHB.QXD dated 5/4/00 and printed on 5/4/00 at 12:06 PM.  In black and white.  Haven't had a chance to compare contents with the 1st printings.
The DMG doesn't have any such info, but the bottom of each page has:  CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION    PROPERTY OF TSR, INC.  DISSEMINATION TO UNAUTHORIZED VIEWERS IS A VIOLATION OF LAW   (copyright sign) 1999 TSR, INC.  Each page is numbered, but page count restarts at each chapter.  Ditto on the Monster Manual.  No illustrations in my DMG or MM.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:54 am 
 

I have a set identical to yours.  I also have an unbound set consisting of 15 chapters.  Pages are numbered "1 of _", each chapter is numbered individually and the following statement at the bottom of each page:

"CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION   PROPERTY OF TSR, INC.  (C)1999 TSR, INC.
DISSEMINATION TO UNAUTHORIZED VIEWERS IS A VIALATION OF LAW"

Chapetrs are as follows:

Chapter 0  Character Creation Summary - last page 1 of 1
Chapter 1  Glossary  -  last page 5 of 5
Chapter 2  Ability Scores  -  last page 7 of 6
Chapter 3  Races  -  last page 6 of 5
Chapter 4  Classes  -  last page 45 of 42
Chapter 5  Skills and Heroic Feats  -  last page 57 of 51
Chapter 6  Character Details  -  last page 5 of 5
Chapter 7  Equipment  -  last page 24 of 23
Chapter 8  Rewards  -  last page 6 of 5
Chapter 9*  Combat Basics  -  last page 35 of 32
Chapter 10  The Enviroment  -  last page 11 of 11
Chapter 11  Magic  -  last page 16 of 15
Chapter 12  Spells (Spell Lists) -  last page 10 of 9
                 Spells (Spell Descriptions)  -  last page 179 of 165
Chapter 13  Monster Manual  -  last page 45 of 38
Chapter 14  Magical Items  -  last page  7 of 6
Chapter 15  Sample Characters and blank character sheet  -  10 unnumbered pages
Errata 30 March 1999  -  64 unnumbered pages

*2: Combat Basics is the heading for Chapter 9 but the headers for each page of the chapter is "Chapter 9: Combat"

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:06 pm 
 

Need to check those page counts, I'll confirm if mine are the same.  
Got in touch with the seller, and didn't make the connection between the name and some of the RPGA stuff I have...  the seller was Steve Hardinger, and said WotC sent him those prepubs so that he could write some 3E RPGA scenarios for the official 3E launch at GenCon.  Which also explains why he had some relatively rare 2e and 3e RPGA things in the lot.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 7:38 pm 
 

My copy of the PHB seems identical to Cernunnos's but dated one day earlier, 5/3/00. It has the light blue cover indicating "PLAYERS HANDBOOK 0". All the books (PHB, DMG, & MM) were created with both the black tape binding (what ever it is called) and spiral bound.

Copies that have illustrations were basically final drafts before they went to print and should have very little if any difference from the final print copy. The non-illustration versions are older and will have variations from the final print copy as rules were modified and the documents were edited.  

As these were all draft documents you will find that there is quite a lot of variation between copies (printing dates, printing styles, etc.).

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