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Poll: Do you think a research team is a good idea?

YES 88%       88%  [ 21 ]
NO 13%       13%  [ 3 ]
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:14 pm 
 

Hey All,
I actually had these thoughts myself awhile ago, but with Invincible Overlord's post in the General Collecting Forum a few weeks ago, as well as some of the recent research discoveries that have come to light (such as Stormber's recent determination of the real True 1st Print Dungeon Masters Guide and some other discoveries such as PotVQ and the Daystar West modules) I wanted to see what everyone's thoughts are about this option.

What I am specifically looking to see is if anyone is in fact interested in the possibility of setting up a Research Team of current forum members to help out both Foul, as well as the Valuation Board with specific research items. At this point nothing is a definite, but I am looking to see if in fact that this is a really viable option and if so, who might be interested in doing it. This new team would be completely seperate from the VB, but VB members would not necessarily be excluded from the research team. Personally, I think that it is a good idea, but bear in mind that it will probably take a pretty fair amount of both time and effort all persons involved.

It seems structurally what would be done with this team, is that there would be a team of people who would try to track down information on specific topics, that at this point are known to need further follow up on(i.e IO emailing back and forth currently Morno from former Wee Warriors), or possible discoveries that we find later on. These research items could be as simple as emailing someone who maybe able to help up us with print run information, to as complex as tearing apart a DMG to find the stitching spacing. All of the members of this team would be reporting to one individual who would them gather any and all the data/information on these research items, who could them put it all together in an organized fashion and send it Foul for site updates with the new info and/or further research.

Like I said, at this point absolutely nothing is definite, but I am looking for some feedback and possible volunteers. The final say so on a project like this would be completely up to Foul, but let me know what everyone thinks, even if you think the idea sucks.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:36 pm 
 

Sounds like a good idea to me. I'm out, however. Morno appears to have finally given hard evidence to substantiate all the research I did for PoVQ, which was basically wasted until IO found him and ascertained the truth.


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:13 pm 
 

A research team sounds good to me.  It could take quite a bit of dedication by the members that are selected, though.  More than likely, the members would have to have at least the following qualifications:

1. Members would have to have access to a decent amount of the items to be researched and/or be quite knowledgeable in them.
2. Members would need to be on the team for the long-term.
3. Members would need to thoroughly document whatever they discover so it can be carried on by others, in the event that they can no longer perform the research.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:40 pm 
 

Clarkie, I think this is a great idea.  There is certainly need - and probably also considerable demand - for it.  If there's any grunt work to be done, I would gladly volunteer my time.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:38 pm 
 

Very good idea.  In the recent discoveries I've made on printing version differences on Daystar Rahasia, help tracking down others with copies, etc. would have certainly helped and led to quicker answers.  We'd probably generate a lot of discoveries with this approach  :D

  


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:54 pm 
 

Clarkie,

I'm all for it. I actually enjoy doing a little leg work, and pooling together our libraries and contacts would help tremendously.  Also if we represent ourselves correctly to the industry alum from a historical perspective and not a bunch of treasure hunters looking to cash in, many would be happy to answer questions to the best of their knowledge. I'm also currently in contact with Paul Jaquays over some Judges Guild questions and he's been quite helpful as well.  

I like your structure for the idea…a council of researchers with various contacts they've made… and like you said access to materials. However this should not exclude someone because they don't have a large amount of the items in question. One… that in my opinion would be flat out unfair, and second an unbiased collection heavy opinion would be healthy. We could send them scans.

I'm in  8) ,

Mike

ajeff wrote:

Very good idea.  In the recent discoveries I've made on printing version differences on Daystar Rahasia, help tracking down others with copies, etc. would have certainly helped and led to quicker answers.  We'd probably generate a lot of discoveries with this approach  


Agreed  :)

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:18 pm 
 

Seems like we are starting to get a pretty good response, although I am still waiting to get some feedback from some other folks.

*waving to some of our current UK friends and hardcore collectors*

Also, at this point these only seems to be 1 dissenting vote, which I would be interested to see who it is. Anybody care to air some dissenting views on this?


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:24 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:Anybody care to air some dissenting views on this?

I could, but they wouldn't be my own.  I think it's a great idea.  But here goes:

1.  "Bclarkie, that's the stupidest thing I ever heard of!"
2.  "Who would want to work on a research team that doesn't even get paid!"
3.  "Research D&D?  Gee, and I thought I was a geek!  Puh-lease."
4.  "Who's got time for research when they could be bidding on deimos3428's fine auctions?"

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:25 pm 
 

:lol:


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:48 pm 
 

It's a great idea, but it is time consuming and requires a fair bit of disposable income, a combination which is hard to achive. Its easy to have a lot of time, but if you want the money to buy the stuff, you need to go and work for it.

Also, with regard to some of the more obvious research items (1st DMG, PoVQ, Pharoah, etc) You really nead to buy more than one to be able to get a grasp of what it is you are really researching.

Unless you could convince IO to send you a PDF of his rares, and then get others to scan theirs and send you them to compare and contrast. That's a good idea. Send them to me and I'll put in the time. :D

Joking aside, if I were to put the time into something b way of a 'contribution' to this site, I would prefer to put together some credible information on the non-TSR stuff. Maybe put together a Judges Guild section with price data and more accurate printing information.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:05 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:10 pm 
 

I don't know what I could do for you guys, as you are obviously much more straight ahead then me as collectors, but if you need my skills - professional (as my job is a graphic design I have some technical background on printing and such) or otherwise - you can count on my help.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:34 pm 
 

I will dissent a little bit (but not much :D ). I love the idea of a research team but it seems to me that it already exists. I always thought that research was one of the main pulls of the Acaeum forums, if not the Acaeum itself. This seems to me the research team is the Memberlist.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:53 pm 
 

CGOULD42 wrote:I will dissent a little bit (but not much :D ). I love the idea of a research team but it seems to me that it already exists. I always thought that research was one of the main pulls of the Acaeum forums, if not the Acaeum itself. This seems to me the research team is the Memberlist.

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The only problem is it's not really organized or documented officially. It's just a bunch of collected information/research with no "glue" to bind it together. I think that an official research team would serve to validate the findings by analyzing the information as a group to reach a consensus and then publishing the final "official" results on The Acaeum.

I think that everyone could contribute information to the research team, just like they have over time to The Acaeum. It would be the research team's responsibility to sift through all the information to determine the most accurate history/representation of items.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:22 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Joking aside, if I were to put the time into something b way of a 'contribution' to this site, I would prefer to put together some credible information on the non-TSR stuff. Maybe put together a Judges Guild section with price data and more accurate printing information.

Just my 2p.


i am always more than willing to put in a little time to help fill in gaps if i can - i aint opening my PotVQ again to - feck that for a game of soldiers :)

am quite happy to scan it tho for Ian to research as he has already had it and i can trust him with it.

as for JG stuff, i am totally for that - nothing is hardly documented and i would wholeheartedly back a research push in that direction and can help aplenty there.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:16 am 
 

Deadlord wrote:

Sounds like a good idea to me. I'm out, however. Morno appears to have finally given hard evidence to substantiate all the research I did for PoVQ, which was basically wasted until IO found him and ascertained the truth.


Frank,

Were you able to find these posts? I still would love to give them a read. I even tried looking around for them again…it's just hard man 1,500 + posts and all. That's got to be the record. :D  

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