Mars wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:N.AlanPatterson wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:As far as reprinting, depending on cost I might do a very limited 2nd printing (less then 20 copies), and these will be noted 2nd prints. After which I am thinking on working with the Texas Con and their archiving project.I think the proposal is to do a limited reprint now (that will be enough copies for everyone here) and allow NTRPG to reprint it later for con goers as well.
N.AlanPatterson wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:As far as reprinting, depending on cost I might do a very limited 2nd printing (less then 20 copies), and these will be noted 2nd prints. After which I am thinking on working with the Texas Con and their archiving project.
Mars wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:I agree and disagree.If you are gearing a product for the collector's market then probably a reprint of the original is preferred but if you are looking to sell it to an audience geared more to using the product then you would need something more polished. RD1 is basically a ready to go product but I'm guessing the original files used to create it are gone and will need to be recreated. So, you can do some basic reformatting and maybe bring the page count down a bit.From what I gather, RD2-5 will need a fair bit of work and maybe a lot of it needs to be done by the author before it gets to a stage where others can help with editing and layout etc. Its tough to figure out what to do with that much material as well (I'm having the same problem with a couple other projects) - a series of 5 modules or a compilation hardcover? RD1 is 38 pages I believe so maybe all of it together will be 150+ pages. Realistically, thinking of rate that Pacesetter and Pinnell produce items, this is years of work that ends up being more a labour of love rather than a profitable commercial enterprise.As for numbers, there are still 20 copies of the Clegg items left on RPGmarketplace out of 100 with many people buying multiple copies and a number of them already resold on Ebay. 20-25 copies seems like a reasonable estimate. This is roughly the range that RC has printed up for a number of his printed releases here so I think its a good guess. Of course, taking pre-orders to get an exact count works well too.
mbassoc2003 wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:Dispite my apparent inability to secure the more interesting products from NTRPGCon over the years, in regard to a direct repring facsimile if the original, I'm with Badmike and NTRPGCon. They have an established process that produces a good quality product at a very reasonable price. I only ask that they do not limit access for foreign buyers, either before or after the Con', as without access to the most desireable products, the process takes on a visage of a small inhouse clique proffiteering at the expence of others.Why not reprint ad infinitum with no distinction between print runs?Or would that ruin the investment and resale values for the lucky few?Good products, but at the moment limited to those with the capacity to proffiteer off of the collectors who want to buy these products.Let's hope they find a more even distribution mechanism as Acaeum is an international community and the most desireable of these products do not appear to be available to international buyers unless you want to spend $80-$200 on eBay.
Badmike wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:Mars wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:I agree and disagree.If you are gearing a product for the collector's market then probably a reprint of the original is preferred but if you are looking to sell it to an audience geared more to using the product then you would need something more polished. RD1 is basically a ready to go product but I'm guessing the original files used to create it are gone and will need to be recreated. So, you can do some basic reformatting and maybe bring the page count down a bit.From what I gather, RD2-5 will need a fair bit of work and maybe a lot of it needs to be done by the author before it gets to a stage where others can help with editing and layout etc. Its tough to figure out what to do with that much material as well (I'm having the same problem with a couple other projects) - a series of 5 modules or a compilation hardcover? RD1 is 38 pages I believe so maybe all of it together will be 150+ pages. Realistically, thinking of rate that Pacesetter and Pinnell produce items, this is years of work that ends up being more a labour of love rather than a profitable commercial enterprise.As for numbers, there are still 20 copies of the Clegg items left on RPGmarketplace out of 100 with many people buying multiple copies and a number of them already resold on Ebay. 20-25 copies seems like a reasonable estimate. This is roughly the range that RC has printed up for a number of his printed releases here so I think its a good guess. Of course, taking pre-orders to get an exact count works well too.Mars and i don't agree on a lot of things but he is spot on here. First, 20 copies is plenty if you limit it to one per person (also eliminate speculators). The Clegg items probably only sold to 40 unique buyers in total (many bought multiple copies), I think Ruby Dragon would bring in far less. That's why pre-orders would be important.I would be against getting "established" companies involved. Bill and Pacesetter have plenty on their plates already. Black Blade hasn't published anything new in several years. RC has his own items that he does a great job on. As Mars said this wouldn't be a money making venture so it would be tough to get outside companies involved, it would be a labor of love. I was volunteering to Alan to do a conversion to S&W or Labyrinth Lord myself for con publication, and I'm not getting paid. I can't see a professional taking this amount of time to do this, and I wouldn't ask.And this just applies to RD1. The rest of the RD series would require a lot of work I suspect. If Mars/Alan ever get those in printable form the NTRPG con would be interested in looking at it, but that seems far off in the future, myself I'm only concentrating on RD1 for the present.Mike B.
aia wrote in RD1 - Ruby Dragon:updated "Acaeum Collectos edition" list:1. cdenham2. Gnat3. misterspock4. stratochamp (original only?)5. Versimilitude6. benjoshua7. aia8. lokiwookie9. Thunderdave10. PM-Knight11. mbassoc200312. Prufrock13. JasonZavoda14. Burntwire Bros15. Throwi16. Chuco 6817. dbartman18. Blackmoorhope this helps!ciaooo
