Xaxaxe wrote:Deadlord36 wrote:Someone please point out one benefit of eBaying it.I can think of three:1. Competition. It's one thing to sit back and let a bunch of PM offers come in, but it's quite another to post a super-rare item on eBay (one of the world's great public forums) and let potential buyers compete against one another in an open arena where anyone, at any time, can influence events. In a case such as the elusive ST1, I don't think it's a stretch to say that the competitive juices would be flowing — much to the benefit of the seller.2. Not every collector visits the Acaeum. It's shocking, I know, but it's true. Some have never heard of it, some aren't interested, some don't like it, and some are lurkers, all of which adds up to an important consideration — the 460-odd registered members of these forums do not represent the entirety of the D&D collecting spectrum, no matter how much we might wish otherwise.Or, to look at it from the other angle: eBay has 135 million registered users, and that's a pretty big pool to draw from. Who knows how many of them — maybe not even serious D&D collectors — might be willing to take a shot at an ST1?3. Seller's market. This goes hand-in-hand with #2 and could probably be classified as #2B, but it's worth mentioning. Given the fact that sellers seem to be raking it in lately — a trend mentioned time and again in various threads here — why would you not take a chance on what some of those 135 million users might be willing to pay? These things tend to be cyclical, but for now, anyway, it's good to be an eBay seller.Now, granted, eBay (and PayPal, if used) does generate fees, and there's no way around those. Those voting for a private sale have a valid point when they criticize such fees — eBay might be a lot of things, but one thing it isn't is free. So, to be fair, that must be considered.And, again, I'll close with two disclaimers: first, although I feel strongly that eBay is the way to go, this is just my two coppers; second, I'm not trying to pull off some sort of cute deal or eBay coup. I won't be bidding by either the PM or eBay method.
Deadlord36 wrote:Someone please point out one benefit of eBaying it.
bclarkie wrote:I can understand Frank's desire to keep in the community, but that so far is the only valid reason to keep it off Ebay. *points to BTB's post about fees*
morgansurname wrote:Simply put, put the reserve at the highest private offer plus the total cost of all of the fees!!! If the sale does not hit the reserve...what have you lost? You could also STILL decide to sell the thing to whoever the highest bidder was on Ebay EVEN if the reserve is not met........What a silly little discussion this has turned out to be.
One other thing I did want to mention about the sale of this item, is that there seems to be a connotation that because I as well as others not participating in the bidding of this item, somehow don't have valid opinions about this because we are not bidding. I wonder why that would be the case, as I would figure that would render our opinion neutral as we have absolutely no stake in how this auction ends up. I actually resent that connotation. Truthfully if I really wanted to, I could WIN this item. Being that I do not have the desire at this time to drop $2k on it does not invalidate my opinion or any other on its how we think it should be sold. I can understand Frank's desire to keep in the community, but that so far is the only valid reason to keep it off Ebay. *points to BTB's post about fees*
invincibleoverlord wrote:I still don't understand why this module is so pricy? For the $1,500 to $2 grand you guys are talking about I'd rather have something truly rare like a first print Dwarven or a 1st ed Chain. Yes the module is rare, but it comes up (iirc ) about every three to four months.
invincibleoverlord wrote:Quick thread poll:Do you guys in the UK gang feel a lot of nostalgia for the ST1?
"blowing me away with an offer"
bclarkie wrote:I still have yet to hear a reasonable explanation for why someone who doesn't plan on bidding on this item have a valid opinion.
bclarkie wrote:I also can't figure out why so many buyers are so feckin concerned about the sellers fees, and no one has answered the question either. I think I addressed the highest price argument in my previous fee with "blowing me away with an offer"
bclarkie wrote:As far as using the reserve price scaring bidders away or causing the non-sale of the item, I think the most recent PotVQ auction kind of settles that, because the item sold anyway IIRC.
killjoy32 wrote:i for one, am very open and offered the lad a cool £1000 plus travelling to his house and paying cash in hand so no hassles.
killjoy32 wrote:LOL you're on mate btw looks like anny has cornered them feckin G mono's grrr well i am off now to go find other stuff to buy. i waded in....didnt catch a fish, so off to look for another pond to fish in Al
Aneoth wrote:Oh for Dragon Kinds sake... please let this sniping on the Acaeum stop.... E-Bay the damned thing already... FWIW: I also feel that E-Bay would be a win-win for both the collecting community and for the seller. So what if the ST-1 DOES disappear into "The Unknown Collector's" bookcase, or safe? If YOU (broadly stated) do not want that to happen, then YOU should bid higher than "The Unknown Collector" does yourself....Of course the eventual buyer of the ST-1 will have far more competition from the world wide web than if the Module was sold exclusively through PMing on the Acaeum, which IMO is the underlying reason behind the negative comments for selling on E-Bay.Besides, I have all of BadMike's money now and it is burning a big hole in my britches..... Hey!! A guys gotta start his second collection sometime and what better item to begin with than an ST-1 .....
