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Post Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:41 pm 
 

Rare is most certainly a very relative word, but didn't 1st print woodies have a print run of 1000? With that being the case, I think everybody agrees that they are in fact rare. One other factor involved in rarity, is retention. Some items are perceived to be less rare because they seem to pop up much more frequetly. That is because of of the retention factor of the owners. Retention can be attributed to a several factors, mostly though as stated above by dbartman, as well as one other: popularity of the item, quality of the item, and also the perceived value of the item. Items that fall into those categories will appear much less frequently than others, because of the fact that owners are more prone to hold on to those items because of those factors. To give an example, look at Wild Things and Dark and Hidden Ways versus the R and RPGA mods. They are both listed as 4s for rarity value, and even factoring in the wariness of folks leery of buying them due to the easiness of forging them with WT/D&HW, which appear less frequently and always command higher prices? The R & RPGA modules without fail. Just my .02.


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:19 pm 
 

As for the Tamoachans and Ghost Towers I would estimate that most of the 300 are still surviving because of the "collector's edition" note on them, plus they are enumerated out of 300 (which is pretty tiny compared to many items labeled collectable out of 50,000 like Star Trek boardgames and such).  While many things that say "collector's edition" on them turn out not to be collectable at all, most of the non-collecting savvy public will buy into the label.  Hence, the label on Tamoachan and Ghost Tower would probably save most of them from someone's trash can along the way, while ST1s, which have no special notice on them, are more likely to end up in the trash during a house cleaning or move.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:01 pm 
 

I think a print run of 7,500 makes the LGJ1-5 an uncommon item. Not rare, not common. Uncommon.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:43 am 
 

Common
Uncommon
Rare
Very Rare
Unique

What about creating official Acaeum scores against these?
And should it be based upon print-run or estimated number in survival today?
(I vote for the latter)

Note - something can still be rare if no-one wants it. Nor does rare have to mean expensive. And condition shouldn't be used to make something appear rare.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:20 pm 
 

This is what the acaeum uses:

5:  The super-rare (and/or unique) items.  Rarely will these items come up for auction, if at all.
4:  Very rare.
3:  Uncommon, borderline-"rare".
2:  Less common.
1:  Routinely available in auctions.  Includes most RPG items published after 1980, with a few exceptions.

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Though i'm not sure how many surviving copies those numbers equate to...

  

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:08 pm 
 

The rarity scale doesn't have hard-and-fast numbers of surviving copies in mind (because there's very little hard data on that).  The scale is simply based on the frequency of auctions for a particular item.

Even so, there's a lot of range for each step on the scale.  A rarity-5 item might come up once every six years.... or it may come up once every six months.  Both are rarity-5, but obviously one is quite a bit more rare than the other.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:37 pm 
 

LGJ#1 + #4 bundle

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 5190215539


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Post Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:19 pm 
 

Greetings, all!

Looks like I have issue #4 of the Living Greyhawk journal in my collection -- I bought it from a collectibles store some months back for (I think) a dollar.  The cover has come off the staples, but otherwise it's in OK condition for my purposes...

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