Your a real shit disturber Deadlord.  I like it!  

Thanks, Blackie. I try.
This is one of the TSR items I've never actually owned. I looked at it like Boot Hill, as an item that I wouldn't actively chase after, but if it came in a lot................ Still, it does look like there is some nice tittage in the artwork. Can anyone confirm?

invincibleoverlord wrote:My question is, 3 -- 5 thousand may have been printed, but how many were recalled? How many weren't shipped for the same reason? And what did they do with them? Destroyed them? Gave them away to thousands of friends? I'm not trying to be sarcastic; I'm just trying to understand what happened to them all?

Honestly, 3 -- 5 thousand printed sounds crazy for an off war-game of the era. 1 maybe 2 seems more realistic, but who am I to question the EGG.  

According to Gary's recollection, they had sold most of the print run by the time the ERB estate told them to stop, so it sounds like the recall wouldn't put a significant dent into the number of copies in circulation.

beyondthebreach wrote

This item has a lot of potential crossover appeal - there are certainly those who collect Edgar Rice Burroughs and early print vintage paperbacks fetch decent prices.

Some might be safely in the hands on non-RPG collectors.

Just a thought. . .

I was thinking possibly the same thing, so I went searching around official and fan based Burroughs sites to see if I could find a mention of it. No luck even with the sites with searches (Warriors of Mars, TSR, Gygax, etc.). However I found this photo with a man, I believe has intention.  



"Dam……I know there's a Warriors in here somewhere"

grodog wrote

According to Gary's recollection, they had sold most of the print run by the time the ERB estate told them to stop, so it sounds like the recall wouldn't put a significant dent into the number of copies in circulation.

Thanks G, always the man with the lowdown. Do you think the print run was closer to 3 thousand or the 5 grand?

I found this, it's not much, but at least one Burroughs reader is into the games.

ERBzine 0289: Motes & Quotes - ERBdate 2000.02.18

I find it highly unlikely though, that a Burroughs (reader) collector would put WoM on their priority list, when most of his original books go for under $100 from what I've seen.

For Example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 84596&rd=1

Plus I've seen tons of his original books at just above this price on reseller's sites.

The book is more of a footnote as far as true Burroughs fans go, not being written or even endorsed by him. It's much more appealing to the TSR collector IMO, that's what is driving the price up. Not to mention confusion about number printed, recalled, etc. I'm sure bidders (other than Frank   ) are bidding on speculation, not wanting to be left out in the cold on a potential future treasure.

JMO

Grodog wrote;

Also, does anyone know when TSR was contacted by the ERB estate to shut down the sales of WoM? If TSR had in fact sold most of them by that time, that would provide a good predictor for the relative speed of sales of WoM vs. OD&D first edition (which took most of year to sell through IIRC, right?).

This is a great question Allan. It would be nice to know how the two faired against each other, and how each inspired the other. I searched around and found nothing, so I went to the WoM itself looking for a clue. I know this is really nothing, but in my copy's rear catalog, the price for a "Multi-Dice Set" has "$1.75" scratched out, and "$2.50" hand-written in pen next to it like the true first print Grayhawk. Could this mean that it was still for sale up until at least Feb of 75?

Also would WoM be considered the first sci-fi rpg?

Yes, HST is the best. As good as Fear & Loathing are his tales collections like Great Shark Hunt . Or the book he wrote about his time with the Hell's Angels. Or his stories from the campaign trail ...

Ahhh... great literature, though completely off-topic. Sorry for that.