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Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:35 pm 

I didn't see this in the grading system posted, and I did a thread search. I would imagine it's very subjective, but what impact does a production error have on the grading of near mint modules?

I have a module in shrink, perfect, save for a loss of color (paint) or color mismatch around the spine. Specifically, it's about a 1/8 to 1/16 inch wide grey line down all the way the front spine at the very edge; and then there's about a 1/2 inch grey line down the length of the back spine. TSR obviously felt it was good enough for the market, or it got passed their QC accidentally (ha!). It is not mold or anything else.

I purchase this thinking it was glare, as nothing in the description intimated otherwise (in fact the description noted the flash was responsible for any glare etc, which I assumed meant the discoloration). Not sure it's worth the return (paying for shipping back, etc). Would this lower it to vf, f, .. or even worse? How does one handle this sort of thing generally?



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Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:44 pm 

Assuming this is a production issue:
Those sorts of production errors (even for SWed items) would probably not lower the value very much for most collectors.

However, Shrink Wrap fanatics (I think) are more fanatic about near perfection than many other collectors might be.
I suspect it would be more of a problem for them.
From my experience reading posts and other things, most SW fans expect near perfection from SWed items and even if it was a production error, it would likely detract from the items value significantly.

If the problem is color fading from exposure to sunlight... well that is a moderate hit on grading IMO.
I have seen plenty of issues like that from older modules.
Especially the Monochrome TSR Modules and even more so for the Aussies...

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:00 pm 

I am not convinced that the s/w cult is as careful and rational as all that.  S/w implies new and unused, but most of us know that is not synonymous with "best possible original copy a large sum of money can buy".  S/W can shrink, crackle, bend, retain moisture and cause problems that many collectors who want "the best possible original copy a large sum of money can buy" would not put up with at all.

Sorry for the nonanswer...  but the s/w usually drives up the value and the production error sometimes harms it.  But, each transaction, collector and seller are unique.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:05 pm 

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:47 pm 

I can think of two modules with production errors:

D3 Vault of the Drow - has a misprint in some printings with most of the details of an encounter area left out.

Book of Treasure Maps - by Judges Guild had a print run with a cover chopped off at a crazy angle...but was shipped for sale anyway.

In neither case does the production error increase collectibility.

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:09 am 

There are two different issues here:

One is Production Errors and one is Production Flaws.  These are not the same thing.

A Production Flaw is something that affects the condition of the item.  It has no possible positive effect on value.  This would include color fading, uneven cut lines, uneven "centering", wrinkles or creases from the manufacturer, etc.  The same can be said for just about any other type of collectible item (comics, cards, stamps, you name it).

A Production Error is a mistake made by the manufacturer/publisher that has no affect on condition.  Misprints, typos, incorrect text order, even pages rotated 180 degrees from the cover.  These could have an affect on value (though they really don't seem to with RPG items) but they are separate than condition.  Certainly baseball cards have a history of "errors" and many of these have increased value.

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