I have a complete set of the Outdoor Geomorph's.
The 22 piece and 11 piece Geos have been cut out, but all are present and the set is complete.

Cover sheet is fine with some wear.
The explanation 4 page portion (Rear Sheet) is very good or better with a tiny 1/4" tear at bottom (at the fold) and some wear, and a bit of crimping at top right corner (At the fold).

Almost all of the pieces have letters written in blue INK in the margins (I assume they were for reference to some design by a former owner) and 2 of the pieces (One of each size) also have numbers written in pencil.

Wonder the value of such an item and would appreciate some help with valuation from fellow Acaeum Members.



The three cut pieces below are (I think) the worst as far as writing is concerned.
The top one and the longer one on the right are the only two pieces with Pencil writing and all but two pieces have at least one inked letter with a handful having two inked letters.

smarmy1 wrote:Fortunately the set is complete; however I think once the pieces have been cut out, the value diminishes greatly.  At this point, the writing would be just one more reason for me not to bid.  As I do not own a copy, I am not sure how neat it is, but I would pay no more than a few bucks to take a look - maybe $5 to $10 at most.

I've watched the shrinked copies sell for a good price lately with Rabbit67 scoring the last one if I recall correctly (Darn you wascally Wabbit67! ), but even in shrink, they are way down on my list of must haves.  They just haven't captured my interest.

Wowsers!
While I do agree that the cut pices do lower the value a bit, I think $5-$10 is WAY too low...that is less than 10% of the POOR condition Acaeum Guide for this item.

Were you perhaps thinking of one of the more common indoor Geomorph Sets?
This is the much harder to find Outdoor Geomorphs Set One: Walled City Set.

Collector's Trove sold one from the Maynard collection back in Nov 2009 for $66, and it was cut up. I'm not sure what printing this was.



There was another one from March of 2009 that sold for $117. It was not cut up, but someone had used "draftsman quality" to darken the outlines the buildings on many of the sheets. This particular one was a 1st print.



edit: the one he mentioned above that was a mystery was a bin for $65 and was in a sellers protective sleeve, but no infomation on how complete or the condition it was in.



http://cgi.ebay.com/Outdoor-Geomorphs-T ... 5ad9594c5d



There were two second printings, one from May and June of 2009 that were not in shrink and not cut up that sold for around $105 each.



Hope that helps.

misterspock wrote:Collector's Trove sold one from the Maynard collection back in Nov 2009 for $66, and it was cut up. I'm not sure what printing this was.

That was the one I was thinking of, but clearly my recollection of the end price was faulty. I was basing my $15 - $35 guess on that misremembered amount, so I guess I have no clue--big surprise .

Yes, you're right. The auction for the 3rd print that ended on May 31 2009 for approx $104 did not have the pamphlet.

So how much would a SW copy be worth??????

Mike B.

Gnat the Beggar wrote:The comments above tell me that all of you feel this set is not worth anywhere close to the $65 I paid for it (plus $5 shipping).

Count me out of "all", please, given the incomplete example I cited.

Gnat the Beggar wrote:


** expired/removed eBay auction **


So now we get to the main point of this thread.
I was the person who BIN'ed that set.
Yep... I agree that the listing had almost no description.
I knew I was taking a small gamble… with a Next to Zero Description.

The comments above tell me that all of you feel this set is not worth anywhere close to the $65 I paid for it (plus $5 shipping).

So, for me to get my money back from this set, I would have to re-sell and lie by omission, or demand a full refund from the seller.

Seller has offered a $15 refund in part (I keep the set as is and must leave poss feedback).
That would be a $50 price plus $5 shipping.
About twice the value of this set as some above indicated.

Or a full refund with shipping both ways (Again must leave poss feedback).

Gnat one of the problems with getting appraisels is that you have two viewpoints, the collector and the retailer. Most of the people here are collectors, some who sell parts of their collections (some on a regular basis) but they appraise low, because if you know what you are doing you can get most game items fairly cheap with patience.



The retailer looks at these items in the opposite way. They know you can sell almost any rare item for a relatively high dollar amount with patience.



Collectors tend to liquidate, they look for quick sales, tend to use auctions or bins that undercut all the competing bins for the same item. A lot of retailers push the envelope on prices and stress condition to justify higher prices than competing items (a completely valid argument, I always got top dollar for even common items like Dragon mags if they were in excellent condition)



For quick sales, the appraisels Ive seen here tend to be low but you will sell that item. For retailer prices and appraisels at those prices, I don't think you will find appraisels like that here, but those kind of prices can be researched.



The general rule is that you cannot ask too much for an item (it wont sell but you will attract interest) but if you ask too little then that item is gone and you arent going to get the top dollar. If it doesnt sell you can wait for the right customer, or lower the price, and you always have the option of selling it dirt cheap. But start out dirt cheap and you throw away all other options.

I think Jason nailed the price issue that causes too many arguments.

The price you can get is a function of time and condition.  If you don't invest the time, you will likely not get the price.  (Although sometimes you can get lucky).  If you shop for a long time, you can usually save a lot of money.  Retailers simply manage that spread and invest time and money to profit.  

For instance, I have a few copies of TSR Worlds.  Sitting on the yields $30-35, but I have one sitting at auction at $3.25.  It may well sell for under $5 or might shoot higher.  I have no control over the price when I control the time by ending the sale at a point in time.  

I would send your copy back and leave positive feedback to get my $65 and try again on something else.