I picked up a copy of this game recently and was wondering if anyone had tracked any sales information on it? The box I picked up is in its original shrinkwrap (with a sticker saying it contains 10 Gamescience high impact dice) but the bottom corner is crushed and there is a bend on the opposite upper corner. There is a tear in the front wrap, a semi circle about the size on an old Ike dollar.

I read recently (last Dec I think) that several of these were located in the possession of the original game creator, but hadn't heard anything since. I've never seen a sell price for this rpg set.

No there was that other sale, someone lucked out on a nice BIN as I recall..

Brette:)

Did anyone ever hear back from the author (member name T'Lar) who posted about his remaining stock?

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lokiwookie wrote:I asked him several weeks ago, with no reply

Yep, me too - no reply either.  Its not an unusual occurrence for these types of items though.  I have 4 or 5 such negotiations on the go some of which are into year 2.

serleran wrote:The person I'd contacted about it told me to contact the other person, and then both dropped out of reach. Alas, this may be a pipe to dream.

I don't know. Out of 1000 copies produced I can't believe there are so few left (15 or so it seems). I'm glad to have gotten a copy but I'd like to have been able to look at the books, and I can't bring myself to take the shrink off of it.

Anyone want to guess at a reasonable asking price would be?

I guess more in the $50-70 range since I don't think a lot of persons are interested in it (at least to bid more than $50). Small press RPGs are not considered as non-TSR D&D supplements/modules and so D&D collectors do not bid on it BTW.
And Mars will not bid on it

Mars wrote:
For something like this, I would generally price it at about $100.  You might get more / might get less in an open auction.  Really tough to tell - I won't be bidding on it.  Its a tough thing to price when a supply is seemingly almost within reach to saturate the marketplace.

I don't think 12 copies would saturate the marketplace at $50 - $100 a pop. All 12 (if the publisher is willing to sell them all, and that seems unlikely) might even end up going to the same buyer or straight to a reseller. Pretty sure T&T or NK would price those copies between $500 and $1000 and sit on them till they sold.

I would put these sets easily into the couple of hundred dollar range simply because of their history and seeming rarity. $50 is taking the wife and kids out to the movies (maybe not even that) or a tank of gas. If the publisher tried to print up a 3 booklet boxed set of these now he'd probably have to charge at least $50 for it.

For a 27 year old set that has 15 known copies in existence I think $50 to $100 is ridiculously low even if all 15 were in the market at the same time. That's the sense I get from 25 years as a reseller. What I'm not sure of is what the low and high ends would be. I'd say minimum, $300 and maximum a good deal higher, especially if these aren't already in the hands of the bigger collectors.

The publisher should probably put these up for sale or auction one at a time then do a pdf or even a limited reprint of the set, maybe even a converted version for modern rules systems.

serleran wrote:People have to want something for it to have value.

In an auction 2 people have to want something..

Brette:)