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Post Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:20 am 
 

Aneoth wrote:I got my copy of the Tegel Manor Color Map Poster. :D

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Thanks for the kudos. Seeing the color map for the first time brought back some of the fun Bob gave us guys from his breakfast nook... so the map was very special to me.

About 5-7 of us would sit at his big dining room table and he'd be (literally) up there always with some new amazing thing. I can't remember what all of the crazy stuff was now but I remember the other players across from me with their eyes bugging out and my eyebrows lifted way up... then peals of laughter... facial expressions during D&D ...funny thing to remember isn't it?


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:28 pm 
 

I'm uploading more JG stuff this afternoon and wanted to thank you guys for tracking the various editions so I can describe them accurately on eBay! I really couldn't remember everything and of course the one's after I was out of the day to day are particularly a fog.


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Post Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:36 pm 
 

Be sure to post a link to your auctons.
Us newbie lurkers don't know your eBay handle.


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:15 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Be sure to post a link to your auctons.
Us newbie lurkers don't know your eBay handle.


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It's GameDesign4u ...thanks for asking and have fun with bidding. I keep finding stuff just when I think SURELY there is not much more! It's like an archaelogical dig at my house.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:27 pm 
 

Hi Bill,

Here is a question for you.  In recounting the origins of his CSIO campaign, Bob describes an alternate mana based magic system the group experimented with, complete with a "robust backfire table".  The story is recounted here at Acaeum:

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/HistoryCityStateCampaign.html

Do you know what this backfire table contained or how it worked?  Or was this ever something that was published in Dungeoneer, Pegasus, or a JG module?

If anyone has any info on this feel free to chime in.  :)

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:34 pm 
 

I vaguely remember this process but don't remember it being put in print in JG materials oddly enough! We did all sorts of things differently that were not standard D&D (no surprise there I assume) but didn't always appreciate how others might want to know about it. Maybe if I talk to the other magic-user, Gandalf (Mark Holmer), he might remember--or Marcham who still runs games so has kind of an unbroken chain of memory.

I will park this in my mind for a bit and maybe it will resurface!

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islestrike wrote:Hi Bill,

Here is a question for you.  In recounting the origins of his CSIO campaign, Bob describes an alternate mana based magic system the group experimented with, complete with a "robust backfire table".  The story is recounted here at Acaeum:

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/HistoryCityStateCampaign.html

Do you know what this backfire table contained or how it worked?  Or was this ever something that was published in Dungeoneer, Pegasus, or a JG module?

If anyone has any info on this feel free to chime in.  :)

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:08 pm 
 

I have not forgotten about the magic mana question but have not had a chance to connect with Marc Summerlott yet. SOON!



PS Out of 433 viewings on eBay, I sold the 75th copy of the JG history today to a fellow German-ancestry guy... and know many of you Acaeum guys bought copies.

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PPS The process of layout (much easier now!), printing (almost as easy but in color!) and mailing gave me a faint echo of what we did with JG in 1976. Then we had no clue whether any one would go for it... but the obvious care that you-all show on this forum give me more than a clue that I might sell a few.


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Post Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:14 pm 
 

Thanks Bill!  Since I posted that question to you I've played 4 OD&D sessions in which we've implemented the magic mana system Bob described.  It does make the magic-user more powerful, so having the robust backfire table is essential to providing a serious drawback to all that power.  Of course we've come up with our own ideas of how it should work, but having done so we're now more curious than ever to see what the original contained.

I went on a bit of JG spree on Ebay last month.   Now that the bill has come in and been paid my next purchase is your book!  Will make a nice December gift.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:39 pm 
 

2 updates: I will pull the signed-copy edition of the booklets 1/2/09 (for good) and hope to have a coffee table version (11x13" hardbound) then--much more expensive!



FYI, I sold 80 copies of the booklet! 739 viewings on ebay so 11% conversion!



As to Magic Mana, I asked Marcham and he had no immediate memory of this but would see if he stumbles on something to address this.



Bill Owen wrote:I have not forgotten about the magic mana question but have not had a chance to connect with Marc Summerlott yet. SOON!

PS Out of 433 viewings on eBay, I sold the 75th copy of the JG history


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:17 pm 
 

Bill,

as one of the conversions ... it was an excellent purchase.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:05 pm 
 

obiter wrote:Bill,

as one of the conversions ... it was an excellent purchase.

Thanks


You're welcome! After the November rush, I sold another yesterday and was so happy you'd think I just had kittens.

A little aside on the numbering of the books, I have in my paws copy #80 which conflicts with my earlier count which is because I was counting the non-numbered issues... for Bob Jr. I gave him # I (the initial letter of the word Initial, of course, to complete the circle of how I insanely started lettering the installments with letter I!) and # B to my brother Bruce... # M to Marc S and an identified pre-release final draft to my other Markian buddy Mark W.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:55 pm 
 

Bill Owen wrote:I sold another yesterday and was so happy you'd think I just had kittens.


That was me, Mark P., I will probably give it a good read and forward it on to Dean Houdeshel who wrote some stuff for the Judges Guild Dungeon Contests way back when.  I am selling some of the items he produced in the 1980s on his behalf (including the ones entered in the JG Dungeon Contest).

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:41 pm 
 

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That was me, Mark P., I will probably give it a good read and forward it on to Dean Houdeshel who wrote some stuff for the Judges Guild Dungeon Contests way back when.  I am selling some of the items he produced in the 1980s on his behalf (including the ones entered in the JG Dungeon Contest).


Thanks Mark! And you are about to get your $7 shipping back because I was too conservative to say free shipping on international... I figured I'd find out what it cost first before I discounted or fully refunded it!


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Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:51 pm 
 

Hi Bill,

I see that nobody has posted to this thread since December so here is a question for you.

Back in the early 1980's when Judge's Guild already had published items for Runequest, was there any discussion about producing anything for Call of Cthulhu?


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:48 am 
 

jasonw1239 wrote:Hi Bill,

I see that nobody has posted to this thread since December so here is a question for you.

Back in the early 1980's when Judge's Guild already had published items for Runequest, was there any discussion about producing anything for Call of Cthulhu?


Hi Jason,

I don't remember that. I sold my half in early 1978 and at that point we were focused purely on D&D. Bob then expanded into a lot of other systems and I did not really keep track of them. I played D&D at least into 1979 but our mutual game interests were only historical boardgames and miniatures. So I am sorry that I am only able to address Ancient Issues.

PS I will be posting some old D&D box covers on eBay this weekend, one from 1974 (woodgrain) and the other 1978 (white). All this time, they were being used to corral clutter and I just figured out that someone might want them!


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:51 pm 
 

I found some more old stuff... Bob & my SIMPLE FANTASY game rules (later REINCARNATION) notes (never published):




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And while the next one is not of interest to FRP fans per se, there is 1 page that I had forgot about. It is a form we used for costing products and mentions TSR royalty... and I was still using the form for a historical boardgame I was working on (WWII in Europe) in 1982:




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Then there's the 49-year-old game that informed my business education:




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Post Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:02 am 
 

I uploaded a slightly different version of my jg history at lulu for print-on-demand and there's also a pdf option too...

http://www.lulu.com/landing/lulu_coupon ... coupon-fff
And I made a few small changes at my jg page:

http://www.g-design.us/jg


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Post Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:15 pm 
 

Discount Coupon does not work in the UK. US currency only.
I bought it anyways. Been waiting for it for a while. Don't want to open my hardcopy.


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Post Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:19 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Discount Coupon does not work in the UK. US currency only.
I bought it anyways. Been waiting for it for a while. Don't want to open my hardcopy.


Thanks! I am sorry the coupon didn't work but it was Lulu's coupon not mine. Let me know if all is okay though. I have not even bought a copy for myself yet!


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Post Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 12:34 pm 
 

Just so everyone is aware....
The PDF version has no covers!
Was this a mistake by Lulu? The advertised page certainly shows the cover.
Is there any chance of a PDF file with the book covers, Bill?


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