Hi, I'm still kinda new here, introduced myself in the introductions thread in the collectors forum...

Anyway, I'm currently running a Hackmaster (basicly AD&D 1st/2nd Ed. with extras) campaign, and recently got Tegel Manor recommended, so my question to you is this. Which version of Tegel Manor should I get? How much should I pay for it, etc.

Thank you.


Corrected minor spelling errors :O

gyg wrote:make sure you make a shrewd choice (sorry Mike!)

I'll keep that in mind

Basicly what it boils down to is if I should get one of the original Judges Guild versions or if I'm better of with the revised and expanded Gamescience reprint...

serleran wrote:That depends a great deal on the amount of work you want to do with it. The earlier versions are more skeletal in approach, sort of like a MAD LIB in a sense, whereas the Gamescience version is more like a typical module of the AD&D era, with things basically given to you. In my opinion, the original version is superior since it encourages uniqueness and extended playability because its never the same twice, even when ran by the same person -- each "blank" is filled in as needed; the other version is rather static in comparison, but its not a band module... just different.

As far as pricing: I dunno. I got my Tegel Manor Gamescience version for $20 at Crazy Egor's, as I recall. The original version (mind you I do not have a true 1st print) cost about $80, but I've heard it being more, and of it being less.

Thanks, that was actually kinda helpful. I'll probably keep an eye out for the original version and see if I get lucky. I did stumble upon the Gamescience version earlier today, nobleknight has it for $13.

serleran wrote:Or, you could wait and get the 4e version from Necromancer Games...

Blasphemer!!!  No, seriously, 3rd Ed. did nothing for me, and I doubt that would change with 4th if what I've heard and read so far is true. So no, thats definatly not an option for me!

The original has D&D monsters, while the Gamescience version had to change them due to not having the rights, but I like them both.

ShaneG.

I think both versions are great.  If you want to get one of the original JG copies, go for the blue cover ones, since they should cost less than the other printings.  

~Kat  ^_^

Plaag wrote:
Ah yes, those who must not have all the printings. What a small group of people you are.

ShaneG.

its just not the same if you havent got one of the older printings man!

thats like sacrilege!

Melan wrote:I believe we are pretty well represented in the "actually playing those damn things" demographic.  

indeed

i see egor is throwing around them "100 copies" of the origins Tegels lately.... sheesh he must have had the lions share of them!

did they only sell 2 or something at the time??!!

anny, that origins one is just the same as the gamescience version. its pretty good i agree, but a fair amount is changed from the older version.

if you get ahold of the little orange book, you will see what i mean.

the older book is really just bare-bones. mike did a pic of my DMs setup at GenCon, i dont know if the pic is still there, ask him (i need to get a pic of that off him too)...in that pic, you can see the book and the lack of details in it.

its a DMs dream, IF you play the game that way. some like the gamescience version as its all there for them. it depends what youre into.

we will be running it again at GenCon this time, though its more homebrew than actual text this time. but i would most definately, thoroughly recommend this adventure in ANY format, to anyone. i've yet to come across anyone who didnt like it.

it won over the guys at GenCon last time for sure. it was fun, because we all had a great time. rules were almost non-existant - there was some very cool roleplay and it just turned out into a great time for all. pure gaming at its best. a good adventure will allow this if everyone is on the same wavelength.

i wish gencon would hurry up....i hate waiting.

killjoy32 wrote:i see egor is throwing around them "100 copies" of the origins Tegels lately.... sheesh he must have had the lions share of them!

did they only sell 2 or something at the time??!!

Having bought one from him on a BIN and then seeing another relisted within hours, I am disinclined to believe Zocchi's assertion that there were only 100 printed.  I have seen this item come up on eBay with a rather high frequency in the past two years.