tdewey10 wrote:Just look at the subweb photos/descriptions. Or am I misunderstanding the question?
Was this just a noob phenomenon or are we starting to see Judges Guild making its mark as a collectible?
I don't want to be seen as "Mr. Negativity" but IMHO, some of these prices seem to be an aberration. Specifically with the Wilderlands and the Revised City State.
Do you guys believe the bid is out of line? Be honest. I do not know. I've seen this mod go in the 40's.
Every Tegel auction I have seen lately has the same four or five Acaeum members bidding the price up along with a handful of non-Acaeum members in the mix.
If this goes for more than $10...I will shoot someone...with a potato bazooka....I swear.
[B]ut these days every collectibles dealer has them spades: tons of brand-new, often shinkwrapped JG items which are obviously not 25+ years old, yet are unaltered reprints of the old stuff.
leadjunkie wrote:Take aim. I'm bidding on it and prepared to do it. I have the first and second printings and want the third to finish off this part of my collection.@ tdewey10 - if you don't mind my asking, are you selling off your entire collection or just duplicate items? You have some items in pretty good shape if your just selling duplicates. If your selling off everything what's your motivation? If I'm being to nosy, just say so.
tdewey10 wrote: In other words, if you're going to claim that it isn't what it seems to be you'll need a hell of a lot better evidence than just a cynical feeling.
leadjunkie wrote:You are mistaken. They are all originals, not reprints. .. The items you are seeing are assuredly shrink wrap items stored for many years.
sauromatian wrote:Then what about:http://www.judgesguild.net/about/jgfaq.shtmlAre you going to be reprinting my favorite old product?The Revised City State of the Invincible Overlord was released in 1999.
sauromatian wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judges_GuildJudges Guild returned in 1999, selling reprints of its old material over the Web.
sauromatian wrote:http://asta-www.informatik.uni-hamburg. ... index.html A note on Judges Guild reprints: Zocchi Dist. reprinted a handful of Judges Guild modules. These reprints are nothing but photocopies of the original books, and are practically worthless to a collector, but a good buy when you merely want to use these for playing. Among the reprinted titles are: Escape from Astigar's Lair, Inferno, Of Skulls and Scrapfaggot Green and Tegel Manor. Other titles may exist, so buyer beware!
sauromatian wrote:http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Lou%20ZocchiZocchi got into a bit of hot water in 2001 when it released a reprint of Judges Guild's Tegel Manor. Zocchi claims Judges Guild co-founder Bob Bledsaw authorized him to do a reprint but Bledsaw claims no such authorization was given and he was darn surprised when he saw a fresh reprint on a store shelf. It's unknown what the state of this disagreement is.
bclarkie wrote:This is obvious that Zocchi was illegally making photocopies of said items and trying to sell them off as originals. That does not count as a printing. The items that you see on Ebay(particularly those still in shrink), from Killjoy, Fencert, Taraumil, CrazyEgor, etc. are simply overstock that was never sold back in the day. These are entirely different and unrelated to the photocopying Zocci was doing(if that is in fact even true). Aside from that Matthias' site was a nice reference point, however it was not 100% accurate in all cases.
Badmike wrote:I can confirm the Zocchi reprints, particulary Inferno (which I still own) and Escape from Astigar's Lair. The quality is awful....I've made better photocopies drunk and while on fire. I have to dig out my copy, but I believe the photocopies are marked in some way across the cover or on the title page. The ones I have owned are often put together badly also, and the edge don't line up exactly. Reaching back into the dark ages, I don't believe these were marketed as anything but photocopies of the originals by Zocchi, although others later on may not have made that distinction.Mike B.
ddt58 wrote:There was an Ebay seller named "Ousmay" who was selling old JG first prints a few years ago. He must have picked up a few pallets from a warehouse. I got a set of the ready ref sheets in the original envelope from him.
There was an Ebay seller named "Ousmay" who was selling old JG first prints a few years ago.
if you get his stock