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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:12 pm 
 

NICE!

One thing about Dungeoneer #4 is that the Discs of Severen by Jim Ward don't appear in the Dungeoneer Compendium.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:34 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:NICE!

One thing about Dungeoneer #4 is that the Discs of Severen by Jim Ward don't appear in the Dungeoneer Compendium.

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i just checked, i have 3, 4, 5, 7, 8....

well it will give me something to do looking for the other 3 :)

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:37 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
i just checked, i have 3, 4, 5, 7, 8....

well it will give me something to do looking for the other 3 :)

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6 maybe the tough one, being as there is only 1 printing.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:45 pm 
 

well i will get it one of these days :)

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:31 pm 
 

Good luck!

#6 shouldn't be that rare on a print count basis, but the 'zine going on hiatus (after already running late) probably didn't help with circulation beyond the initial subscriber and distribution copies.
Would love to know how many were dropped over to the UK by then...

As to absolute rarity, 1st print #1 should still be the most elusive, I'm sure.
Considered myself fairly lucky to pick up a half-decent 2nd print for ~$15 from a reseller, but can't recall seeing a 1st, off-hand.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:46 pm 
 

Faro wrote:

Is that a mailed copy of #7, btw? Don't remember seeing those seal tabs before.


Good spot David. Issues 1-6 all have the same staple marks, and #7 has the seal tab. All of these issues here are subscription copies mailed to the same person.

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The other thing I noticed was the #7 had a bulk rate mark, as apposed the previous 6 issues having stamps. Our #8 has no mailing information or staple/seal tab present. It appears to be a newsstand copy.

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One cool thing I noticed thanks to you was…

As to absolute rarity, 1st print #1 should still be the most elusive, I'm sure.


I hadn't noticed all the further research into the Dungeoneer, so after finding this.

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/DungeoneerMags1-6.html

I was quite happy!   :)

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1st print - June 76


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:17 pm 
 

*g*. I should've spotted the staple marks on the previous scan and connected that with the 013 subscriber number. Cool! :D

Interesting reversion to the original banner for the final reprint. Guess that threw me, too; or at least confused my understanding given the "scan required" image over here. :)

thx for the confirmation, Mike. ^^


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:23 pm 
 

I was just back looking at the Dungeoneer page, and I think the picture describing a 3rd print should be the 1st. The copy without a stated #1, "Dungeoneer" inside a drooping banner like above, and postmarked June 76 would seem to be the 1st print given the early date.

The pic for the stated 2nd print (below) appears to say July -- August 76? Or is that 77? With "reprint" written below? It's hard to tell. What's your's say David?

So would that make a 3rd print like a second with "Dungeoner" heading written out the same but  latter dated? Anyone have a copy?

To further my theory, it appears the typeset for the reprinted issue 1 came from the "Dungeoneer" heading format from issue 2.

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:48 pm 
 

invincibleoverlord wrote:I was just back looking at the Dungeoneer page, and I think the picture describing a 3rd print should be the 1st. The copy without a stated #1, "Dungeoneer" inside a drooping banner like above, and postmarked June 76 would seem to be the 1st print given the early date.

The color of the cover paper/cardstock for the 3rd print is different, I think. Wasn't totally sure 'bout that before but now that you've confirmed your subscriber #13 copy... :)
(see also http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/af ... g/dg01.jpg ?)
There's presumably a further indication on the back cover as to reprint status on the 3rd. Shane will have had that info from Adrian?

invincibleoverlord wrote:The pic for the stated 2nd print (below) appears to say July -- August 76? Or is that 77? With "reprint" written below? It's hard to tell. What's your's say David?

IIRC it was the same as the "July - August 1976"/"REPRINT" (=2nd print) copy shown both on the site and above.

invincibleoverlord wrote:To further my theory, it appears the typeset for the reprinted issue 1 came from the "Dungeoneer" heading format from issue 2.

Yup; went over to using that for the reprint #1 for the sake of consistency, but then reverted (apparently) to the original format for whatever reason... (still before #6 was released)?
Original artwork format must've remained on-hand if so, since it's a perfect match as far as I can see.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:00 pm 
 

Ah... that does ring a bell now.
"Paul wrote that the first edition of issue #1 has a tan cardstock cover."
http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/af ... index.html

What does "tan" look like to you, Mike?! :)

Not quite sure whether I'd call yours "tan", but that does appear different to the #1 listed on site (stated 3rd print) and poss. on Afterglow, unless the lighting conditions are very different.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:44 pm 
 

*reads your second follow-up post*

This has me going through the research processes as well.  :wink:

I see --- what you're saying is the 3rd print could have reverted back to the cover with the "drooping banner" and being absent of stating issue #1.

This leads to questions:

Is the 3rd printing pictured here on the Acaeum differentiated by an august 77 postmark (the date being given), or is it stated within the text? My thought here would be the postmark could vary as these reprints were ordered over months. Unlike the bulk mailing date of the 1st print subscriptions that were filled.

And like your searching for, is there a difference in paper stock, color, or both?
 
Lots of questions here.

Cool stuff David. Great to be back working with you... :)


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:07 am 
 

Faro wrote:

What does "tan" look like to you, Mike?!


Subject to opinion, so let's all compare…

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The first is a clearer photo of our copy with minimum light distortion.

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The second is that long observed and drooled over photo from the Afterglow.

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The third is the one listed as the 3rd print. It does look a little greener.

Thoughts anyone?


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:09 am 
 

invincibleoverlord wrote:Thoughts?


I think I'd like to own them all :D


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:27 am 
 

Well I've emailed Adrian..as for the pic sent me (unaltered regarding size and dpi) it is the 'greener' type compared with the others.

I personally have these:
Dungeoneer Issue 01 (2nd Printing)
Dungeoneer Issue 02 (2nd Printing)
Dungeoneer Issue 03 (1st Printing)
Dungeoneer Issue 04 (1st Printing)
Dungeoneer Issue 05
Dungeoneer Issue 06

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:31 am 
 

IO: Your mailed #7 include the letter?

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0085.html

Judges Guild detectives are at it again, this is a return to the 'older days' :D

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:46 am 
 

indeed! far better reading that ummm "other stuff"

this is what i always liked about this site!

would love to get my hands on the remainder i am missing....

bah other things to do before that, such as jaunts across the sahara again - not much chance of finding them there :D

good work guys

i look on in envy!

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:29 pm 
 

Whilst waiting for confirmation to the above...

@IO: Would I be correct in guessing that there's no "SB02MAU013" written on that copy of #1, above?
i.e. That it was either purchased in advance or sent out as a freebie single issue to Mr.(?) Mauzey and their actual subscription started from issue #2. Ditto for Tadashi's.

Having dug out #5 & 6 here, #5 has "SB05WAGN103": i.e. not picking up subscribers at a huge rate if I read that correctly and difficult to explain "over 200" by #6 save through the number of new subscribers that may have been accumulating whilst that issue was busy being late...

Mailing date for #5: July 30, 1977
#6: Dec 22, 1977 (same recipient, no subscriber code)
Check?

(With any luck you have a much earlier date on #5... ;))


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:56 pm 
 

... and another two Chronicle Cards found (total now three :?) inside that other copy of the Crown of The Summerlands tourney per the 2002/6 thread; viewtopic.php?p=50242&highlight=#50242

Looks contemporary enough so I doubt that tourney is much after 1980, Brette. (Also makes reference to the PH, but not the DMG; the latter might've been expected given some of the other quirky notes re. disallowed (house) rules on that intro page?).


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