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Post Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:47 pm 
 

I have a Mint Tegel Manor, 1977,  still in the envelope it was mailed in to me at TSR. Envelope is a bit beat, but all present.

Also contains pristine copy of TJG Installment 2,
Wizard's Guide...Ready Ref Sheet.
Character Checklist
2 Maps unfolded less than 3 times each.

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NM-M Judges Guild Intitial Issue, 1st Printing  in plastic sleeve
Contains:
Maps I-1 - I-5 on white
Maps I-9 - I-12  on white
Maps I-1 - I-5   on yellow and goldenrod

Does not have booklet.

Make an offer? It will go on e-bay real soon otherwise.

What are the J-1 to J-4 maps on goldenrod?

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:59 am 
 

In both cases I say go to eBay. It's the big leveller. The newbie money helps push the price up, and the collectors already know what the products are worth.


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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:24 am 
 

photos/scans would also help.

Aside: do you have a post mark date on that envelope?
and do these items corrispond to the ones on my website: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/

Specifically the white I9-I12: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0004.html
and white I1-I5: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0008.html

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:26 am 
 

Plaag wrote:photos/scans would also help.

Aside: do you have a post mark date on that envelope?
and do these items corrispond to the ones on my website: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/

Specifically the white I9-I12: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0004.html
and white I1-I5: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0008.html

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heh shane :)

youre the JG equivalent of the OCE david :)

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:26 am 
 

i've already chucked a bid at tim anyway for the hell of it, but its always nice to see one of these on ebay as its such a popular JG item imo.

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:30 am 
 

Plaag wrote:and do these items corrispond to the ones on my website: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/

s'OK, Shane, I've thrashed out the contents with Tim (since about 15 minutes after he posted).
There's no white "I" booklet - first post amended accordingly.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:31 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
Plaag wrote:photos/scans would also help.

Aside: do you have a post mark date on that envelope?
and do these items corrispond to the ones on my website: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/

Specifically the white I9-I12: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0004.html
and white I1-I5: http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0008.html

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heh shane :)

youre the JG equivalent of the OCE david :)

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Oh I don't intend to bid if its what I think it is..Just would like to be certain and not have to pick up another variant.

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:21 pm 
 

Will collate and catalog my JG tonite.

How can I post pictures on the board this time? That lasrt debacle with pics was embarassing.


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:31 pm 
 

Campaign Hexagon System   unused  some discolor on cover

Journal M, Monster Compendium Sheet, Lg & Sm Modron maps, Booklet M
VG still in brown envelope

Booklet L-Tegel Manor 3 maps, Installment L, Still in mailer envelope
Very faint stamp printing from postal meter; without CSI, I know it says May, 1977 I think.
Near Mint

Booklet J, Maps 1-4 on goldenrod, Surprise encounters sheet on Yellow,
Booklet has some highlighting with colored pencil otherwise G-VG

Journal #1 (first Printing), Maps (White) 9-12, (White) Levels 1-5, (Yellow) maps 1-5
Stored in plastic VG

City State of the Overlord 1st Edition, 1st Print
Constr. Cost sheet, 2 DM copies Camp. Map One, one Player Map One, Cover sheet with Welcome on back
Maps:  ?, shows goblin reser., dwarven mines one heavy stock, one light
I-11 shows estuary of raglaroon one heavy, one light
? Wild orcs of purple claw one heavy stock, one lighter weight
? shows gold bosom pool one heavy, one light

Wilderlands of High Fantasy: 4 heavy 2-sided maps; two for DM, two for players. One Hubric of Haghill map,  2 large booklets

4 Thunderhold Maps, one dark, one light large; same for smaller

Booklet K


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:34 pm 
 

Well regarding these items I won: the mailed Installment L does include the Reduced Judges Map (#30), the Wizards/Construction Ref sheet, plus a list of shops that were selling Judges Guild items (hopefully this weekend I shall have a chance to post that on the site).

Installment M has better maps that I'll post, other then that it seems at least early on Judges Guild had envelopes that they mailed, and envelopes that were not.
This was mailed:
http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0034.html
The one I shall add to the site looks like this barring the written 'Q' and sticker:
http://www.acaeum.com/jg/ModPhotos/Inst ... elope.html

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:36 am 
 

Plaag wrote:Well regarding these items I won: the mailed Installment L does include the Reduced Judges Map (#30), the Wizards/Construction Ref sheet, plus a list of shops that were selling Judges Guild items (hopefully this weekend I shall have a chance to post that on the site).

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Congrats, Shane. I told Mr. Huckerby he'd have to watch out for you!
The postmark date is the same as my mailer copy, btw.

List of shops sounds interesting: does that look like a regular item or just something that was sent to Tim, for obvious reasons?

(aside: I did offer #30 before, in the middle of a large post, but didn't hear back: presumed you had sourced one elsewhere).

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:46 am 
 

Anyone know exactly why Judges Guild made small cosmetic changes...such as the color of a cloak or skirt...when they made new print runs?

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:50 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Anyone know exactly why Judges Guild made small cosmetic changes...such as the color of a cloak or skirt...when they made new print runs?

*listens*

  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:00 am 
 

faro wrote:
MShipley88 wrote:Anyone know exactly why Judges Guild made small cosmetic changes...such as the color of a cloak or skirt...when they made new print runs?

*listens*


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:13 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
faro wrote:
MShipley88 wrote:Anyone know exactly why Judges Guild made small cosmetic changes...such as the color of a cloak or skirt...when they made new print runs?

*listens*


*listens too*


From Bob (JudgesGuild.net forums) "Each time we published a title, we sent in a new copyright notice. Chuck Anshell eventually took over this responsibility and then Mike Reagan as Business Manager. We usually upgrated the cover and corrected any errors upon reprint. At first, I reprinted everytime we ran out of any component..."

Seems Bob rarely mentioned printings, but he does change covers and product lists.  The hard part though is what components lasted and which were changed. Tegel we see only the cover sheets, Character Checklist, then the booklet itself till the format changed, then again there still is a CC sheet except for the last printing.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:31 pm 
 

faro wrote:
Plaag wrote:Well regarding these items I won: the mailed Installment L does include the Reduced Judges Map (#30), the Wizards/Construction Ref sheet, plus a list of shops that were selling Judges Guild items (hopefully this weekend I shall have a chance to post that on the site).

:)
Congrats, Shane. I told Mr. Huckerby he'd have to watch out for you!
The postmark date is the same as my mailer copy, btw.

List of shops sounds interesting: does that look like a regular item or just something that was sent to Tim, for obvious reasons?


Just a list of shops and Booty list (it looks generic enough to be sent to anyone, but who knows)

faro wrote:(aside: I did offer #30 before, in the middle of a large post, but didn't hear back: presumed you had sourced one elsewhere).


Damn, I didn't see it. Oh well.
Am still curious as to who got the player map/I-dungeon lot.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:43 pm 
 

Still doesn't really explain the phenomenon.  Some of the changes are not very significant and could not be regarded as "upgrades."  Some seem to actually be downgrades.  The covers of Modron are a good example of this "downgrading."

Also, since the cost of a four color cover had to be the same no matter which colors were used, upgrading from less colorful to more colorful does not seem to make sense....since the cover could have been as colorful or "better" right from the start.  

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 4:11 pm 
 

Well it stopped after #560* (I have to scan a few more books and put them up as I've found more printings I did not know about). As to the changes to covers, well some are fixing mistakes:
http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0140.html
Others are just some color:
http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0119.html
and others include text, or exclude it..

If Bob did just revamp when components were gone, then for Modron it would first have likely been the booklet, then maps, then combining the whole thing (I'd have to investigate if the art director for that was the same..)

Overall though not much is 'upgraded'. Think of it like the 1st Ed DMG, cover stays roughly the same as well as content for the 1st 3 or so years. Maybe it comes down to: Don't judge a book by its cover (but for the most part you can judge its printing  :) )

*That I of course know about..

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Post Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:52 pm 
 

I sometimes wonder if they didn't just tell the printer to use "some color on that."


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