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Post Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:42 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:Nice Tegel Manor review found here:
http://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewt ... c&start=30

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yeah i saw that - its a really cool review and i agree with it totally. its how modules should be done imo.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:29 am 
 

Well since the majority of the maps are for Tegel, thought I'd discuss them all here.

#23 Judge - Tan
#23 Judge - Tan - No Address
#23 Judge - Yellow
#30 Judge - Yellow (I am guessing this has no tan equivalent)
#24 Player - Tan
#24 Player - Yellow
#24 Player - Yellow - Dark Ink

Installment L has #23 Yellow, #24 Yellow Dark Ink, #30 Yellow
1st Printing, 2nd Release has #23 Yellow, #24 Yellow
1st Printing, 3rd Release has #23 Tan, #24 Tan
1st Printing, 4th Release has #23 Yellow, #24 Yellow
2nd Printing has #23 Yellow, #24 Yellow
3rd Printing has #23 Tan, #24 Tan
4th Printing has #23 Tan No Address (Players map is found in center of Book)

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0027.html (To make sense of this all)

Comparing the Players maps and Small Judges map that the maps get lighter, so would correspond to being printed: #24 Yellow Dark Ink, #30 Yellow, #24 Yellow, #24 Tan

Course my 3rd release version was partially mismatched :wink:

I've also found I have Campaign Maps 1 Judges Light Tan, 6 Judge Yellow (so don't need scans now), #50 Campaign Maps 4/5 Yellow No Address (so thats a new set)

Also Thunderhold maps ( http://www.acaeum.com/jg/Item0015.html ) which I have:
Judge - Non Hammermill Watermark - Pebble Paper
Judge - Non Hammermill Watermark - Non Pebble Paper
Player - Non Hammermill Watermark - Pebble Paper - I5 on Reverse
Player - Hammermill Watermark - Non Pebble Paper - I5 on Reverse
Player - Hammermill Watermark - Non Pebble Paper - Single Sided

So curious if there is a Judges map with Hammermill watermark and if I accidentally sold mine :?

And finally #39 Player's First Fantasy Campaign Map - a new one I discovered has hex edge lines at the corners of the map (not paper) which I think would have been on the image at the time to line it up to the hex paper when printed (one I think is with my 1st, didn't write it down at the time and will check later, another is separate)

So you thought you had all the known maps huh :lol:

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:39 am 
 

d'ya know, i have about 6 tegels i am going to sell, but havent done so yet, as youre making it a bloody nightmare for me :)

just when i think youre going quiet and i might have a chance, you go and throw another spanner in the works.

go and work on something else and leave tegel alone for 6 months :)

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:41 am 
 

:lol:

The plan begins....Bwahahaha :twisted:

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:42 am 
 

Plaag wrote::lol:

The plan begins....Bwahahaha :twisted:

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:45 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
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Got to love the internet, cause I now know what that means :wink:

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:46 am 
 

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Got to love the internet, cause I now know what that means :wink:

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lol :)

hey did you get an e-mail i sent a little earlier?

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:50 am 
 

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lol :)

hey did you get an e-mail i sent a little earlier?

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Aye, now I can make sure you don't forget about Tegel those days :wink: :D

((oh and everyone else check the previous page for the On Topic news I posted :) ))

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:09 am 
 

Plaag wrote:
Aye, now I can make sure you don't forget about Tegel those days :wink: :D

((oh and everyone else check the previous page for the On Topic news I posted :) ))

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oops yes sorry about that. IMPORTANT TEGEL NEWS at the start of the topic before Al hijacked it as normal.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:10 am 
 

i still go back to my original point with regards to all this.

JG being what they were back in the day, i am still very convinced that a lot of the items were mis-matched anyway and cant believe for one second that everything was so well structured, because there was no chance it could have been!

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:34 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i still go back to my original point with regards to all this.

JG being what they were back in the day, i am still very convinced that a lot of the items were mis-matched anyway and cant believe for one second that everything was so well structured, because there was no chance it could have been!

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Yeah I know, especially later on when it was others doing all the shipping, etc..even Bob would discover inventory was wrong. (CSWE comes to mind)

Though there has to be a sequence, Judges Guild didn't print all the maps for instance at once on different paper (I know this cause I was at the discussion meeting at last years GenCon - may have to look at those notes again for other stuff). So sure orders after the fact may have a different 'printing' component, but there must be a 'majority' if you will that are more uniform. I can only assume somethings on the site as I didn't buy everything in SW or Installment Envelopes.
The human factor (talking Judges Guild employees since items were in SW) has messed up various products, I've got a few of them, what with a map added here, extra this or that. Tac cards are a jumble when you look at the 1st print, no set has matched (but I'm keeping track ;) ).
My only thing regarding Tegel though is the blank coversheet, I mean I can place the others, but that one is the oddity.

It maybe something that needs to be really discussed if prices are going to be put on the site, because I don't want to be the reason for someone loosing out on money because their set isn't 100% like what the site says. Course somethings people could care less about as long as its got all of its components.

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Post Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:58 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:47 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:What do you think of the price?  How did I do?

That's about what I paid for mine.  However, I don't have the little insert card as shown in the picture.  Let us know what that is all about.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:09 am 
 

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Waiting for this to arrive.  What do you think of the price?  How did I do?




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thats about spot on that! nice one...lovely condition too.



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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:15 am 
 

I think $10-$15 is bout right for this book.  The Gamescience edition with the white cover is worth a bit more maybe $25-$30.  Are the Gamescience versions covered on JG subweb?

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:52 pm 
 

Mars wrote:I think $10-$15 is bout right for this book.  The Gamescience edition with the white cover is worth a bit more maybe $25-$30.  Are the Gamescience versions covered on JG subweb?


http://www.acaeum.com/jg/OC-GameScienceTegelManor.html

Heck yeah :)

Mark, yeah they go for around that much, so its a good buy. Plus you got a Gamescience (small catalog) with it.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:23 pm 
 

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/OC-GameScienceTegelManor.html

Interesting, but you either you forgot to mention or didn't know that the Gamescience version of Tegel Manor as written is incomplete.  It does not contain all of the material in the original version published by Judges Guild as Gamescience was not provided with an original copy of the module, only an apparently incomplete photocopy from Bob Bledsaw's personal collection.  So when it came time to update the module ... oopsie.

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:56 pm 
 

http://www.acaeum.com/jg/OC-GameScienceTegelManor.html

My copy arrived today.  The booklet is in essentially mint condition...even better than the listing let on.

The maps are printed on white paper...a bit puzzling to me.  Although they are pristine, and appear to be professionally folded, they also look like photocopies.

Could these be the result of a quick photocopy process involving the original Tegel maps...done by Gamescience?  Or, are they something else?

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Oh...and the Gamescience catalog is from 1996.


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