Thanks Shane.

*sigh*. I wish that lot had its mailers, too. You did spot the "Originally published in..." wording, there?
Good, so that date tallies (pretty much) with when they originally released the subscription "L"s; and that can be similarly asserted back to "J" as I was doing, before.

> Now Boot Lists to #30, to #37, Treasure Vault to #160, No Product list. So I am wondering how to call these variants, and well wondering just when the 2nd print booklet L came into being.

New reverse on cover sheet only?
Tegel Manor Playing Aid is fine, although "3rd release" rather than "3rd printing", perhaps?
(Not worth listing the cover sheet as a separate item, too? ).

Good question on the orange Tegel...

> I do now believe the evidence is out to say that the thin font titled/single sided Character Codex is the 1st print, the thick font 2nd, and the thick font double sided 3rd.

> Another interesting bit..the Thunderhold maps (yeah both Judge and Players) have the Hammermill Bond watermark - my other copies of these maps so far do not, so am wondering if anyone has the watermark also on their Thunderhold maps?

Yes.
That would be "first state", presumably, given no indication of prior printing and the date (~Sep/Oct 76) they originally started using that supplier's paper?

=
Please give me a shout when you've finished filtering-through the previous input (or possibly when that yet-another CSIO #12 arrives ), since I'd like to go back through what we've all discussed thus far (implications on dating for #1, #4, etc.).

Plaag wrote:CSIO arrived along with true 1st print CSWE - so now 4 'printings/variants' (not as 'water damaged' as I suspected so happy and came in original opened shrinkwrap)
May not get to any updating of the site, but who knows.

CSWE's cover sheet has Treasure Vault up to #170, and appears just from glance Guidebook is different.

CSIO has the subscription card and mailing card (so I think they appeared with only this playing aid). Thunderhold maps have the Hammermill Bond watermark along with players map (so I am curious if the non-watermarked Thunderholds go with the Thunderhold Installment )

Other then that, Disscussion is open David and those who also have these early products..lets try and hammer this out at the 'early JG items discussion' thread.

ShaneG.

Bah!!

*shakes fist at Shane*

Oh well, maybe next time for me, good win though Shane.  BTW, I got the shipment you sent today. Thanks.

Plaag wrote:Other then that, Disscussion is open David

Thanks.
Still awaiting those other updates/catch-up, Shane. A few posts of that either haven't filtered through, yet, or else waiting for the nod (e.g. on #30).

Bonus points if you can spot my previous comments re. #4 from before and add those in to that item's chronology without my re-posting those.
(Of course, everyone else will be missing confirmation of the key observation since you emailed that to me, rather than posted it here )

Plaag wrote:CSIO arrived along with true 1st print CSWE - so now 4 'printings/variants' (not as 'water damaged' as I suspected so happy and came in original opened shrinkwrap)

Nice

Plaag wrote:CSIO has the subscription card and mailing card (so I think they appeared with only this playing aid).

No.

Plaag wrote:Thunderhold maps have the Hammermill Bond watermark along with players map (so I am curious if the non-watermarked Thunderholds go with the Thunderhold Installment )

And no, again, afaik.

I'll just point above to the previous posts. Best not to repeat myself too often. I do not have any installment runs with a #12 (and you keep outbidding me on those ).
Therefore that mailing card presumably came with "K" as I originally suggested ("L" at an outside possibility, if just "surplus stock").
And per the top of the page, watermarked and original installment.

Plaag wrote:..lets try and hammer this out at the 'early JG items discussion' thread.

Yeah, need to keep all that "open", though. It's somewhat of a jigsaw puzzle, isn't it?
All good fun...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8766624234

OK, after reading a lot of the excellent posts here and checking out the JG subweb in greater detail, I finally won my first JG auction.  I probably paid a bit too much for it but after looking at the amazing detail put into it, I think it is definitely worth it.

Now if I can just pick up the rest of the City State items to go along with it I will be in good shape.  

MShipley88 wrote:

Kingofpain89 wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8766624234

OK, after reading a lot of the excellent posts here and checking out the JG subweb in greater detail, I finally won my first JG auction.  I probably paid a bit too much for it but after looking at the amazing detail put into it, I think it is definitely worth it.

Now if I can just pick up the rest of the City State items to go along with it I will be in good shape.  

    Contratulations...and that is not too much for Wraith Overlord.  As I recall, I saw your bid and decided not to snipe a fellow Acaeum member.
(How noble of me!   )


Mark  

Hey man...if you really want something...all's fair.  I would have rather been outbid by an Acaeum member than some asshat with zero feedback that doesnt know what the item is worth.  

Kingofpain89 wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8766624234

OK, after reading a lot of the excellent posts here and checking out the JG subweb in greater detail, I finally won my first JG auction.  I probably paid a bit too much for it but after looking at the amazing detail put into it, I think it is definitely worth it.

Now if I can just pick up the rest of the City State items to go along with it I will be in good shape.  

hey KOP - nice win chummer!

thats an ok price for that so you did just fine!

well done

Al

Beyondthebreach wrote:This isn't too bad, right?  I've heard some discussion that $40+ is average and the last one went for $80.00.  

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Hey, is there is supplement that deals with the lower circles of Hell as well?  I've always been a big fan of the Divine Comedy.

First very nice win..and second the other circles are being written by Geoffry O. Dale. I believe he has a lot of it done, though I think still needs to find a publisher.

ShaneG.

Beyondthebreach wrote:Hey, is there is supplement that deals with the lower circles of Hell as well?  I've always been a big fan of the Divine Comedy.

Years ago our DM created one using the text as a guide - pretty scary (and perfect for high level characters) and with plenty of diabolical scheming.  Is the JG Inferno any good? Remember...

Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate

red_bus wrote:
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter" . . . right?