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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:41 pm 
 

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Plaag wrote:That would fit..and around the time period.

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yeah thats what i thought.

S&S though, could be a few... sword & sorcery? nah thats the name of the new 3E company isnt it...

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Yeah it is the 3E company, but surprised the name wasn't used earlier, or was it.

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:47 pm 
 

just had a quick look through the journals i have - quick mind. couldnt fina any other reference to S&S, so maybe that lead didnt pan out?

none of the mods fit any other scenario, other than empire of the petal throne

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:51 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:Yeah it is the 3E company, but surprised the name wasn't used earlier, or was it.

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just did a quick web browse and cant find nothing pre 3E but then its hard to search really cos it comes up with allsorts of crap.

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:55 pm 
 

only other thing i saw was something on Ian's site

Squadron/Signal Publications Inc...

they did that "Down in the Dungeon" back in '81.

doesnt seem right to me though, although maybe it was a plan that didnt work out.... am thinking more that anyway.

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:04 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
Plaag wrote:Yeah it is the 3E company, but surprised the name wasn't used earlier, or was it.

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just did a quick web browse and cant find nothing pre 3E but then its hard to search really cos it comes up with allsorts of crap.

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Yeah same here..also did check out Ian's site and a few other ones that list companies..no luck.

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:18 pm 
 

wahay!

god i'm good.

shane, JG journal # 18 (#121)

"Starships & Spacemen"

The Inside Scoop on Gaming - RPGnet

that should do the job :)

and here's an auction that finished last month:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 8789115997

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Post Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:25 pm 
 

Good sleuthing, Killjoy.

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Post Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 4:53 am 
 

MShipley88 wrote:Good sleuthing, Killjoy.

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i think i even impressed myself there - its nice to find something from time to time - makes research far more satisfying!

it does make you take stock tho too. wtf am i doing at 1.15am!!!  8O  8O  

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Post Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:10 am 
 

Thanks Al
Now I'll have to check out Journal 18.

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:04 am 
 

was just a general thought really as we are trying to iron out some "guideline" values on JG items.

i was just looking at the classifieds there and there was this:

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now i dont regard myself as any form of expert in any field here, david, ian and shane put me to shame here, but i am pretty sharp on the values tho.

Lara's Tower - is probably uncommon

Temple of Ra - depends on the print - 1st quite rare and the later prints become more common

Sea Steeds & Wave Riders - 1st print is quite common and a nice shrinked 2nd is uncommon/slightly rare

The Fantasy Cartographer's Field Book - is very common (i should know as i have a sh*t load of em)

so them all combined i would say youre looking at what, maybe $15-20 and thats being prb kind.

so then we are left with what $80-85 to throw at a complete CSWE and a dark tower.

now i know some of us have caught a dark tower for a juicy price, but normally, they go for decent cash - maybe about $25-30. i have sold them for more once or twice, but they were VERY nice copies. i think quality and print has a big effect on this one as it will bring more collectors out of the woodwork, the older the print is and the nicer the quality, the more inclined ppl are to have a piece of the action.

now CSWE. mmmm well, i have grabbed these for around $15-20 on a number of occasions, all in differing conditions, but the values dont seem to change that much and i certainly wouldnt rate is as "rare", maybe uncommon being a complete item, but nothing better than that imo.

so what do y'all think? JP if you read this, sorry chummer, i am not trying to hit your sale in any way - so please dont think that, but i AM trying to get to the bottom of values and i dont know of any sales that would peak the sum on that sale.

if anything, dark tower is the premier item there, followed by CSWE and then the rest.

anyway - just thought it would make a good discussion?

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Post Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:59 pm 
 

I'll agree on the CSWE and Dark Towers going for $25-$30 each
Lara's Tower seems to hit $5+
Temple of Ra $10+
Sea Steeds & Wave Riders >$5
The Fantasy Cartographer's Field Book >$5

CSWE have the oddest habit of going one way then another in price however, and has the broadest range. I've seen complete sets go from $15 to $50+

Really though I'm not sure how well the more common Judges Guild items do trying to sell them just through here. (Since I know TimK did well selling rares) Though yeah I've done a private sale, but I've not seen that many Judges Guild items posted.

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:48 am 
 

Interesting in the other Dungeon Contest (results in Journal 21 - 1980, June/July) is that Rat on a Stick looses yet becomes #850 published through Judges Guild and Beastmaker Mountain looses and is published by Mayfair in 1982.

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:07 am 
 

Plaag wrote:Interesting in the other Dungeon Contest (results in Journal 21 - 1980, June/July) is that Rat on a Stick looses yet becomes #850 published through Judges Guild and Beastmaker Mountain looses and is published by Mayfair in 1982.

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what were the winners?

maybe at that time, they were short on stuff to publish n stuff and just used the material anyway....

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:54 am 
 

MINI:
D. Carnley "Fortress of the Great Wyrm Master" (1st place);
D. Houdeschel "Indians & the Mountain Ram Clan" (2nd place);
D. Coble "Tunnel of Ikata-Sa" (3rd place);
B. Prouty "Ruined Tower of Mabeleck" (honorable mention).
D. Goodsell "Forgotten Mine"
R. Marron "Tomb of Nekt";
D. Goodsell "Cave of the Goblin Lord";
B. Waiters "Shrine of Shaka Grogi";
C. Heiney "Kthenta's Dark Repose";
J. Scrimgeour "The Jade Seagull";
L. Baker "Heart of the Temple Dungeon";
R. Verberer "The Humor of Amadon";
N & A Jensen "Prison of the Gods";
V. Mather "Simpleton's Tomb";
D. Jageman unnamed dungeon;
C. Campbell "Terror of Forest Deep";
T. Daley "Temple of Demogorgon";
D. Maxfield "Jackrabbits Lair";
W. Gustafson "Red Mountain Mine";
S. Kucera "Zygomatia's Dungeon".

MEDIUM:
B. Hinch "Lair of the Ninja Lord" (1st place);
D. MacKenzie "Lost Tomb of Ahmahnteph" (2nd place);
D. Ellis "Catacombs of the Undead" (3rd place);
A. Eaglestone and G. Butler "Alamastra's Realm (honorable mention).
G. Menning "The Depths of Darthvoor";
B. Fawcett "Beastmaker Mountain"; (William Fawcett gets this published through Mayfair)
J. Graff "Duinar";
P. Amory "Conspiracy of the Demon Lord";
G. Tolle "Vovedyosey";
W. Carlsrud "Storm Giant's Citadel in Harridan Gap";
K. Wyzywany "Great Halls of the Snake Lord";
S. Jones "Mountain Moor Dungeon";
C. Weaver and G. Woodcock "Pyramid of Suberus".

LARGE:
K. Criscione "Khrest 'l'est (1st place;
R. Baier "The Azurain Pirates" (2nd place);
J. Alford "Bloodthirsty" (3rd place);
N & M Plant "House and Lands of Leamon the Greedy" (honorable mention).
R. Jones "Threat in the North";
G. Paczolt "Rat-on-a-Stick"; (George R. Paczolt: this becomes #850)
B. Chapin "Haus of Phunn;
D. Houdeschel "Revenge Dungeon";
K. Wyzywany "Eight Swords of Chayn";
D. Dyche "Halcycon Cavern";
J. Hopkins II "Demon Lair";
R. Jones "Dungeon of the Mouth";
J. Fowler Striek Hollus";
R. Irwin "Stronghold of Karthas";
J. Mounie "Thunderhold Caverns"

I'll have this all cleaned up for the next update.

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:36 pm 
 

its a while since i looked in the mags. are all these dugeons actually in them? (dont think they are from memory)....if not, its a shame cos some of them sound really cool and would be good to use them in campaigns..

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:33 pm 
 

Nope, not all. I should be able to go through the corrisponding Dungeoneers and Pegasus mags, then have them all updated for next time.

Course I also want to Google/search to see if any of these people have written anything else.

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Post Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:09 pm 
 

I know from corresponding with the author of Beneath the Storm Giant's Castle that he originally created it as an entry in the Dungeoneer module contest.

It was too long for the magazine contest, but Judges Guild wanted it for actual publication.

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:51 am 
 

I assume the "Storm Giant's Castle" is not the same as the "Storm Giant's Citadel" above, because the author names do not match.

"Jackrabbits Lair" sounds terrifying. Bunnies & Burrows cross-over adventure?

And don't mess with the Ninja Lords!

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:11 am 
 

zhowar wrote:I assume the "Storm Giant's Castle" is not the same as the "Storm Giant's Citadel" above, because the author names do not match.

"Jackrabbits Lair" sounds terrifying. Bunnies & Burrows cross-over adventure?

And don't mess with the Ninja Lords!

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storm giants citadel could have been the original name and then they changed it to be released...

shane can confirm of course...

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Post Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:40 am 
 

I don't think the long manuscript of Beneath the Storm Giant's Castle actually made the entry list.  

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