Plaag wrote:mbassoc2003 wrote:I take it that you are differentiating between the CISO that was released digest size with some 12 loose maps, and the 'Revised books that were all released 8x11?My '2nd print' has 80 pages, a glossy grey cover with red writing' 'Created and Approved...' and the '$8.00' centred at the bottom. The final entry on the last page product list is '97 Journal 15 (X)...........$1.50'I don't know what the '1st Edition' copy is. I understood that the grey copy was the '1st Edition' of the 'Revised' City State. Was the earlier digest sized CSIO a 'Revised' edition?Thanks for that info.Yeah, I am differentiating this from the #3 (1st edition) and #12 (2nd edition)..in all then there are 7 'printings' of CSotIO books, 5 of which being the revised ones (8x11 sized)So now I just need to confirm the 1st printing of the Revised CSotIO.ShaneG.
mbassoc2003 wrote:I take it that you are differentiating between the CISO that was released digest size with some 12 loose maps, and the 'Revised books that were all released 8x11?My '2nd print' has 80 pages, a glossy grey cover with red writing' 'Created and Approved...' and the '$8.00' centred at the bottom. The final entry on the last page product list is '97 Journal 15 (X)...........$1.50'I don't know what the '1st Edition' copy is. I understood that the grey copy was the '1st Edition' of the 'Revised' City State. Was the earlier digest sized CSIO a 'Revised' edition?
mbassoc2003 wrote:Plaag wrote:Thanks for that info.Yeah, I am differentiating this from the #3 (1st edition) and #12 (2nd edition)..in all then there are 7 'printings' of CSotIO books, 5 of which being the revised ones (8x11 sized)So now I just need to confirm the 1st printing of the Revised CSotIO.ShaneG.Could you post a pic' of what you believe is the 1st Revised? I only have the 2nd Print you discribe above, and a digest sized 1st edition.
Plaag wrote:Thanks for that info.Yeah, I am differentiating this from the #3 (1st edition) and #12 (2nd edition)..in all then there are 7 'printings' of CSotIO books, 5 of which being the revised ones (8x11 sized)So now I just need to confirm the 1st printing of the Revised CSotIO.ShaneG.
killjoy32 wrote:heres one for everyone to mull over. am quite interested in everyone elses thoughts on these as my thoughts on this DON'T tie in with any of the other websites.#66 Sea Steeds and Wave Riders.came out in 2 prints. the 1st is a white cover, the 2nd, a blue covernow. on the other sites, it mentions that the 1st comes with the deck maps and the 2nd doesnt. every 1st i have ever got my hands on, has NEVER had deck maps and the 2nds always have.my thoughts are this:#66 was originally released just as a book. they then released #69 flotilla one (which is just deck maps for #66). at a later point, they then re-printed #66 with the deckmaps.what does everyone think or did the 1st actually come with deck maps anyway?Al
Plaag wrote:What copyright dates and/or highest # in the booty list/treasure vault do your copies contain.#88 Dark Tower
Plaag wrote:Campaign Map #15/#16 (plus what are the copyright dates on these)Campaign Map #17/#18 (plus what are the copyright dates on these..saves me digging them out)
El Diablo Robotico wrote:Plaag wrote:Campaign Map #15/#16 (plus what are the copyright dates on these)Campaign Map #17/#18 (plus what are the copyright dates on these..saves me digging them out)Did you get an answer for these? My 15/16 and 17/18 maps have copyright 1980 on them.
Plaag wrote:Come upon these questions recently:What copyright dates and/or highest # in the booty list/treasure vault do your copies contain.For: #76 Dragon Crown#80 Of Skulls & Scrapfaggot Green#88 Dark TowerDoes #92 Wilderlands of the Magic Realm that came with the installments (ie 16 page books) have the same coversand same question with #300 Wilderlands of the Fantastic Reaches.I believe I had other questions that escaped my mind at the moment (damn poetry)..but jotted those down as I was working on the site.ShaneG.
killjoy32 wrote:Plaag wrote:Come upon these questions recently:What copyright dates and/or highest # in the booty list/treasure vault do your copies contain.For: #76 Dragon Crown#80 Of Skulls & Scrapfaggot Green#88 Dark TowerDoes #92 Wilderlands of the Magic Realm that came with the installments (ie 16 page books) have the same coversand same question with #300 Wilderlands of the Fantastic Reaches.I believe I had other questions that escaped my mind at the moment (damn poetry)..but jotted those down as I was working on the site.ShaneG.#92 wilderlands of the magic realms - the pictures on each instalment are totally different.#76 dragon crown - i have two different prints of this one - one with a yellow cover and one white, they are both (c) 1979. yellow one doesnt have a booty list, but has a little section at the bottom on the back which says "more fine products from judges guild" - the highest item there is JG310 city of lei tabor $7.98. the white cover one DOES have a booty list, and the highest item there is #97 journal 15 (X) $1.50. i believe that makes the white cover copy the 1st print and the yellow cover copy the 2nd print.#80 of skulls... i dont have an open copy of this one right now (only shrinked ones), so cant help you there #88 dark tower - mine has (c) 1980 on the bottom of page 2 with all the usual blurb, and "dedicated to howard thompson because he gave me my first break". no booty list at the back, but there is a "treasure vault". the highest item therein, is i think, #710 amycus probe. it splits each game system seperately, instead of just one list, so makes it a little confusing really. the cover is the usual green one with the white border.hope this helps.Al
Plaag wrote:On #92 is each book different in content, or is it the same in both. (rational here is that if they had different content and they were later combined, then they are not really 1st print/2nd print..more book 1, book 2)
Plaag wrote:#88: first is 1979, the one you have is 1981 (both dated around june of those years actually to). I'm wondering if one was printed in 1980.Thanks for that,ShaneG.
killjoy32 wrote:Plaag wrote:On #92 is each book different in content, or is it the same in both. (rational here is that if they had different content and they were later combined, then they are not really 1st print/2nd print..more book 1, book 2)the first book (white cover - instalment V), relates to all the locations on one set of maps (12/13 i think) and the second book (blue cover - instalment W), relates to all the locations on the second set of maps (11/14 i think).think it was either the 3rd or 4th print, where there is one book instead of two - i have it but am just to lazy to go look and of course, the information detailed in the two 1st print books are different, as they relate to different maps. so logically, there are two 1st prints, one for V and one for W.Plaag wrote:#88: first is 1979, the one you have is 1981 (both dated around june of those years actually to). I'm wondering if one was printed in 1980.Thanks for that,ShaneG.ummm mine is (c) 1980, not 1981 ?Albtw on that earlier #66 sea steeds, that i was on about. i have had about ooooh 40 different 1st prints off various different people and have never once had one in shrink and have never had the deck plans with it either. i have had about 5-6 different 2nd prints off various ppl and they have always had deck plans. i have about 20 shrinked 2nd prints here, and they all have deck plans.i think the sequence was:#66 sea steeds and wave riders - 1st print - no deck plans#69 flotilla one - 1st print - deck plans for #66#66 sea steeds and wave riders - 2nd print - with deck plansi am sticking to that cos i am convinced its correct Al
Plaag wrote:Well, now I have an update from information I received regarding this auction: Dark Tower Game | eBay(c)1979, but has a page stating new releases for #140/150 that puts it at 1980. Course I've asked for a scan of that page and a better one of the cover..so shall see.ShaneG.
killjoy32 wrote:yeah i have been watching that one for a few days now, as well as a few other items that seller is offloading.
El Diablo Robotico wrote:killjoy32 wrote:yeah i have been watching that one for a few days now, as well as a few other items that seller is offloading.BTW, that Dark Tower picture he is using is the exact same picture used by another seller who's auction just ended a few days ago:cgi.ebay.com/AD-D-Dark-Tower-by-Paul-Ja ... dZViewItem