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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:16 pm 
 

Saw the one go for $78 recently but all I can say is wow!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 86862&rd=1 :o


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:23 pm 
 

Marlith wrote:Saw the one go for $78 recently but all I can say is wow!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 86862&rd=1 :o




A little birdy told me that there is something very special about that one though. :wink:  Remember, Mr. Harami is a very SMART and seasoned buyer, who doesn't just throw his money away on anything and everything.  :D


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:52 pm 
 

I would love to know then after the auction is over. I hope he would be willing to pass along what makes this one different than the others. I just can't see it from the images...though I would not even begin to consider myself more than a rank amateur in the variations of Judges Guild products.


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:53 pm 
 

*chuckles* thanks! But that's not what Frank said, first time, in response to http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3760075536 ;)



Unfortunately I'm being forced to lead from the front on this one, against my better judgement. And knowing that doing so would wave a few flags over here.

Still somewhat irked with the seller's decision to handle things in this way, after offering assistance, but it's their call.

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Marlith wrote:Saw the one go for $78 recently but all I can say is wow!



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 86862&rd=1 :o




Uh-oh, looks like the little birdy must have visited Aneoth too, as he has thrown in his .02 into the ring, or rather $170. :wink:



Christ, look at that bidding history, its like a who's who of the Acaeum, all for that silly Tegal Manor. :lol:

It must be the special packaging that seller is going to pack your purchase with. That seller REALLY must care about protecting your purchase. :wink:


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:19 pm 
 

I heard through the grapevine that this is not simply a matter of a nice looking Tegel Manor, but the strange looking packing materials that will be used to keep the Tegel Manor nice and snug for the long and otherwise lonely trip across the pond....



the packing materials that will be used to pack the Tegel Manor in a nice cozy manner are a big bunch of photocopied papers from some long forgotten source. :wink:


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Aneoth wrote:I heard through the grapevine that this is not simply a matter of a nice looking Tegel Manor, but the strange looking packing materials that will be used to keep the Tegel Manor nice and snug for the long and otherwise lonely trip across the pond....



the packing materials that will be used to pack the Tegel Manor in a nice cozy manner are a big bunch of photocopied papers from some long forgotten source. :wink:




Aw, what the hell, I'm in.  :D


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:37 pm 
 

The same birdie that was singing to bclarkie landed on a grapvine I listening too as well. I might have to throw my hat into the ring as well though I doubt my pockets are deep enough.


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Marlith wrote:The same birdie that was singing to bclarkie landed on a grapvine I listening too as well. I might have to throw my hat into the ring as well though I doubt my pockets are deep enough.


Hope you got the full story.... :roll:



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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:49 pm 
 

Oh, I see this quote was missing from the emails to those who joined late.



"Another bidder did e-mail me a picture and all I could say is that this one is a much brighter yellow. The camera gives a quite good representation of colour I think."



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Marlith wrote:The same birdie that was singing to bclarkie landed on a grapvine I listening too as well. I might have to throw my hat into the ring as well though I doubt my pockets are deep enough.


Hope you got the full story.... :roll:



(Can't say I'm enjoying this).




Well I got pics and a story.  I was slightly disapointed to see no JH, but still some nice packing material. :wink:  I also got what I am sure is a form email stating:
Thank-you for your interest in my present and previous auction. The Dungeons & Dragons Memorabelia lot was removed at the request of eBay. They felt that the presence of photocopied material was likely to influence the bidding. The also received a complaint about its presence.




Now who the hell would have complianed?  :roll:  Obviously someone who has no idea what the things in the auction were.



The other really disturbing part of the email I received was this:
Following advice, and at the request of some American bidders, I have decided to break the lot up and auction items off individually




I mean WTF is that? :evil:


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:56 pm 
 

Aneoth wrote:I heard through the grapevine that this is not simply a matter of a nice looking Tegel Manor, but the strange looking packing materials that will be used to keep the Tegel Manor nice and snug for the long and otherwise lonely trip across the pond....



the packing materials that will be used to pack the Tegel Manor in a nice cozy manner are a big bunch of photocopied papers from some long forgotten source. :wink:


So this one's going across the pond is it? Does someone know something about the 'quality' of the packing that they're not sharing? Yes. I've seen the photos.


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:00 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:So this one's going across the pond is it? Does someone know something about the 'quality' of the packing that they're not sharing? Yes. I've seen the photos.


Yeah, but only myself and one other person got the comment about the color of the cover... For good or bad, I really haven't got a clue, to be honest. :?

  

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mbassoc2003 wrote:So this one's going across the pond is it? Does someone know something about the 'quality' of the packing that they're not sharing? Yes. I've seen the photos.


Yeah, but only myself and one other person got the comment about the color of the cover... For good or bad, I really haven't got a clue, to be honest. :?


Aah. Good old insider dealing. Has your black folder arrived yet? Eagerly awaiting the low down on the condition and what you think of the mod' (presuming you haven't read it before). PM me with your thoughts.  :D


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mbassoc2003 wrote:Aah. Good old insider dealing. Has your black folder arrived yet? Eagerly awaiting the low down on the condition and what you think of the mod' (presuming you haven't read it before). PM me with your thoughts. :D


I think Bella has been too slinky for her own good, to be honest...



Is possibly at the postal depot; will check tomorrow.

(Oh, btw, at least one or two people were under the impression it was a first print; hence, possibly, the reason for that crazy-mad $1000 quote).



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Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:11 pm 
 

Repost; email now sent!



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Oh, I see this quote was missing from the emails to those who joined late.



"Another bidder did e-mail me a picture and all I could say is that this one is a much brighter yellow. The camera gives a quite good representation of colour I think."



Happy now?



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harami2000 wrote:Repost; email now sent!



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Oh, I see this quote was missing from the emails to those who joined late.



"Another bidder did e-mail me a picture and all I could say is that this one is a much brighter yellow. The camera gives a quite good representation of colour I think."



Happy now?



Will be having a word with Bella ;)




i just got this e-mail from "Bella":



Hi all,



I have had warnings from three bidders that if they bid on the item and won, and were dissatisfied in any way with the item, they would recover their money through PayPal or their Credit Cards.



For those of you who do not realise the implication of this, it is that the packing material does not need to be returned with the item you are bidding upon.



Those of you who have warned me of this possibility should not take this message personally. Had I received this warning from a single sourse, I could possibly have ignored it, but with the bidding going so high, I am giving serious consideration to ending this auction.



I will sleep on it and check my e-mails in the morning. As I am encouraged not to auction these used gaming materials on eBay, I see nothing underhanded in taking private offers.



I will leave the item to run for the time being and see how things develop. I just think everyone should be aware of the situation.



Thanks. I'll be in touch.



Bella.



personally guys, i don't really like the way in which they are conducting themselves here. hardly the honourable way to auction something.



just what i think anyway.



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Post Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:50 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:personally guys, i don't really like the way in which they are conducting themselves here. hardly the honourable way to auction something.

just what i think anyway.

Al

Do you mean its a dishonourable way to run an auction woith the 'packing materials', or do you mean its a dishonourable way to compete and bid for the items, or both.

Besides, what happens if PoVQ is a photocopy?

I would like to discuss the PoVQ printing techniques and such issues with you, David, when you've got your copy and have had a chance to study it.


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Post Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:13 am 
 

hi ian....noooo nothing to do with whats IN the auction. how someone wants to "word" their auction to get around e-bay is cool with me, as well as who bids on it and how much they pay and how they go about it...again thats cool with me.

if you read the reply she sent to me (and no doubt to others too), you will see what i mean. if youre gonna run an auction, then you run it. in the end, she has made it very clear that its for tegel manor and "packaged materials". well if ppl want to bid on the whole, in the hope that the "packaged materials" are actually something else, well thats the risk isnt it. she isnt placing any value on them, the bidders are. but in the mail, she is threatening to pull the auction, but will leave it running for now "to see how it goes"...i mean WTF is that all about? i know some have said that they are paying on c.card so if anything isnt right they will fall back on that and get their money back, which is a little unfair for the seller and i can understand her hesitancy on wanting the auction to run, due to the risk involved of unhappy bidders if something doesnt pan out the way they want it to.

honourable to me is you just run the auction. she should have just ran tegel manor and thats that. should have left the "packaged materials" as a private issue to those who are interested imo.

by "honourable", i meant all these e-mails that are getting sent out by her. i just dont like that - but thats just me. it just makes me feel that the auctions for some reason doesnt quite feel like a "level playing field" for all involved.

i just see this one ending up in a very bad situation somehow....

but hey, where there is money involved, there is always trouble on the horizon :)



  

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:32 am 
 

Yeah, I got the e-mail as well, but I see her point. If someone sent Tegel Manor back to her and got a refund through PayPal, she's got no PoVQ. And she's obviously been advised of its worth.

If eBay had asked her to remove the items, she should have just e-mailed bidders directly and asked for private bids. Especially if she already had some on the table.


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