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Post Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:30 pm 
 


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:44 pm 
 


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JZ's link above led me to this..


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Post Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:04 pm 
 

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JZ's link above led me to this..


I'll be getting a bad reputation for issuing condition warnings but it was rather depressing yesterday to check out the items they have listed. To casually repeat "box discolored", etc., without providing any further information is a bit meh...


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Post Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:57 pm 
 


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:07 pm 
 


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I haven't been following Iron Kingdom prices but $60 for this book used to be a reasonably good deal.


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:53 pm 
 

O/T Do you know whether the 3.5 war machine is based on 1e Battlesystem, or my Companion set method, or some hybrid, or something new?

  

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:35 pm 
 


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Seems to be getting a good deal of interest


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:25 pm 
 

ExTSR wrote:O/T Do you know whether the 3.5 war machine is based on 1e Battlesystem, or my Companion set method, or some hybrid, or something new?


3.5 warmachine is the roleplaying game for the warmachine world.  Warmachine is a wargame similiar to Warhammer (ie minis fighting it out in squads).  It is a great war game.

The RPG is even better, steampunk done right.  It is just roleplaying in the warmachine world.  The mechs found in the wargame and such are available in the RPG but with 3.5 stats and not warmachine stats.  Rich and highly detailed world. Great product :)


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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:31 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:Seller grantdalgliesh is selling the original Harn paintings of maps:

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If the seller is Grant Dalgiesh, then he is the publisher of Harn and the son of the original publisher.  I don't know if the elder Dalgiesh is still active in Columbia Games.




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Post Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:39 pm 
 

TheHistorian wrote:Alright, fess up, wtf won these?  I'm pretty pissed right now.

Ah... beat me to the post. No mercy from Bill, sorry.


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:55 am 
 

Wasn't me. Have been hyper-busy over here and no time for my usual Harn hunting.

  


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:58 am 
 

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Alright, fess up, wtf won these?  I'm pretty pissed right now.


Was $400 excessive or about right??


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:39 am 
 

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Was $400 excessive or about right??


I'm thinking it was a good deal. It might seem high at first thought, but if you factor in that there are four painted maps -- 30"x40" apiece -- that comes out to $100 each. Framing even one of those will cost probably $250 at the cheapest :)

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:33 pm 
 

Some Outlaw press and others recently published T&T items



"SPECIAL PRINT 1985 " from outlaw press


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:26 pm 
 

lokiwookie wrote:Some Outlaw press and others recently published T&T items

"SPECIAL PRINT 1985 " from outlaw press

** expired eBay auction **


and the others
eBay listings


Keep in mind that Outlaw Press is run by a dishonorable man.  When he can print and re-print whatever he wants whenever he wants, any value attached to Outlaw Press items is questionable.



I don't remember where that Acaeum thread is, but here is a page with an excellent summary of Outlaw Press' activities:



. . . http://mxyzplk.wordpress.com/2010/08/13 ... evil-acts/

  

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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:37 pm 
 

True!

It is just for one who want to read some T&T recent books for cheap. I don't think prices would be high on these ones.

Never saw the PLAYER'S COMPANION and the TRIVIAL DEATH before (this last one is "copyright 1985" apparently, but looks to be a reprint too)


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Post Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:36 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:any value attached to Outlaw Press items is questionable.
Y'know, I just realized that I have a vague memory of a Jimmy Shipman from early RPGA days, 1980s. No clear recollections, but problems, nothing good. A wannabe author praps (who didn't have what it took). :/

  

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JohnGaunt wrote:Keep in mind that Outlaw Press is run by a dishonorable man.  When he can print and re-print whatever he wants whenever he wants, any value attached to Outlaw Press items is questionable.

I don't remember where that Acaeum thread is, but here is a page with an excellent summary of Outlaw Press' activities:

. . . http://mxyzplk.wordpress.com/2010/08/13 ... evil-acts/

Regardless, community behavior is somewhat contradictory in the manner in which different people are treated. And there's more than a hint that "status" plays a part in that, sadly.

James, for example, had the full support of Ken St. Andre barely a year before regardless of known copyright violations, rumblings from Rick Loomis, etc., because he deemed that bringing products back into print and encouraging/producing new material was a positive that far outweighed those negatives. It was only right at the last minute that Ken ditched James, hard...
So, now James is a total outcast (and, to be honest, I can see why he might be more than a little bit aggrieved at the manner in which he's been treated) whereas I don't recall seeing (m)any people critiquing Ken for fully encouraging James for a several years. Strange, that.

Meanwhile, in the blue corner, "we" are more than happy to do business with fraudsters like Pete Kerestan who deliberately sold RPG-related fakes as genuine items where he never had any permission from anyone for doing so. If James is "a dishonorable man", where does that put Pete?

Add to which, I could mention those community members who share illegal copies of commercially-produced RPG-related material and even run boards for that purpose...

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Anyhow; more-or-less on-topic, there's a new reprint of Monsters! Monsters! from FBI (apparently) now on sale at NKG for reasonable money.
(And if that /is/ the book cover, I'll just have to presume the deal with the (c) owner for the art wasn't just a one-off BITD ;)).


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:45 am 
 

faro wrote:Regardless, community behavior is somewhat contradictory in the manner in which different people are treated. And there's more than a hint that "status" plays a part in that, sadly.

James, for example, had the full support of Ken St. Andre barely a year before regardless of known copyright violations, rumblings from Rick Loomis, etc., because he deemed that bringing products back into print and encouraging/producing new material was a positive that far outweighed those negatives. It was only right at the last minute that Ken ditched James, hard...
So, now James is a total outcast (and, to be honest, I can see why he might be more than a little bit aggrieved at the manner in which he's been treated) whereas I don't recall seeing (m)any people critiquing Ken for fully encouraging James for a several years. Strange, that.

Meanwhile, in the blue corner, "we" are more than happy to do business with fraudsters like Pete Kerestan who deliberately sold RPG-related fakes as genuine items where he never had any permission from anyone for doing so. If James is "a dishonorable man", where does that put Pete?

Add to which, I could mention those community members who share illegal copies of commercially-produced RPG-related material and even run boards for that purpose...

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Anyhow; more-or-less on-topic, there's a new reprint of Monsters! Monsters! from FBI (apparently) now on sale at NKG for reasonable money.
(And if that /is/ the book cover, I'll just have to presume the deal with the (c) owner for the art wasn't just a one-off BITD ;)).


Because Shipman blatantly used dozens of artists work without their permission and I have never seen any proof that St. Andre new about this. Hell, almost no one realized this was going on till some guy in South America spotted it and was originally blasted by a bunch of people supporting Shipman till it all started coming out.

Saying that other people are just as bad doesn't change the fact that Shipman deserves all the shit he is getting.


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Post Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:08 am 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:Because Shipman blatantly used dozens of artists work without their permission and I have never seen any proof that St. Andre new about this.

I don't make a habit of dropping personal emails onto public fora but take it from me Ken knew what was going on in general /long/ in advance and still approved of the work done by James. He might not have known every single last detail of every piece of artwork but (c) violations are (c) violations whether text or art.

JasonZavoda wrote:Saying that other people are just as bad doesn't change the fact that Shipman deserves all the shit he is getting.

"Worse", from the above example.
Nope, not saying that; just that there are double standards in spades on the general topic of (c) theft from the community as a whole.


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