stratochamp wrote:for the world is hollow, and i have touched the cellophane...

Best television episode title ever!  Nice twist.

Best,

Paul

Bracton wrote:

faro wrote:A bit high, perhaps: $35-60 has been more the norm for those I've seen.
I don't think he's selling them in bulk any more, either, since they're useful to draw in buyers for other sales (although if you were to offer $100 each, perhaps... ).

High by $2.54?  

Though given your comment, David, I'm wondering if these are perhaps more common over on the other side of the pond.  I've been on the lookout for a Seren Ironhand for a couple of years, and this is the first one I recall seeing in quite a while.  (Well, other than TFM's, which at a $150 BIN is a bit on the pricey side.    )

The majority of those were actually in the $35-45 range - mostly from the same seller - with a few outliers higher. Does that make you any happier?



Yes, there have been fewer more recently since they've been saving them to draw in customers for other sales, as explained.



Citing Kynan's copy parallels the old effect seen with WoM: list an item high enough for long enough and, so long as no other copies come along, the "value" of an item is mentally adjusted upwards. Thus, for example, if a previously $100 item is relisted at variable amounts between $300 and $500 there's a good chance it will be snagged at $300 "because someone has seen it at $500"... even if it never sold.

Similarly, I'm going to be amused if those rare - and rather good - NWS rules go for $750 because they've been seen at $1,000-$1,500 before! Rather less likely given the content/niche market, but y'never know.



Anyhow... I was replying to Ian that $80-100 was perhaps a bit high - not commenting on the actual sale price - but now that that range has been mentioned it could just as easily become the new "target" if someone remembers that without the context of the discussion.

Should be a nice copy, that one, regardless.



(And, no, not more common over here!)

faro wrote:
The majority of those were actually in the $35-45 range - mostly from the same seller - with a few outliers higher. Does that make you any happier?

Yes, there have been fewer more recently since they've been saving them to draw in customers for other sales, as explained.

Citing Kynan's copy parallels the old effect seen with WoM: list an item high enough for long enough and, so long as no other copies come along, the "value" of an item is mentally adjusted upwards. Thus, for example, if a previously $100 item is relisted at variable amounts between $300 and $500 there's a good chance it will be snagged at $300 "because someone has seen it at $500"... even if it never sold.
Similarly, I'm going to be amused if those rare - and rather good - NWS rules go for $750 because they've been seen at $1,000-$1,500 before! Rather less likely given the content/niche market, but y'never know.

Anyhow... I was replying to Ian that $80-100 was perhaps a bit high - not commenting on the actual sale price - but now that that range has been mentioned it could just as easily become the new "target" if someone remembers that without the context of the discussion.
Should be a nice copy, that one, regardless.

(And, no, not more common over here!)

All good points.  Having only been watching out for these for the last year or so, I wasn't aware of the earlier sales history.  But fortunately, I do my best to find happiness elsewhere than the prices of collectibles.   



And I certainly wasn't quoting Kynan's price as indicative of the market.  But if it does tend the market for items I own higher, all the better.  

mbassoc2003 wrote:Again, Seren Ironhand is one of those items in my list of top ten non-TSR D&D products of all time. Like Starstone, it's something that should not be missing from anyone's collection.

Okay, then sell me one.  

reading the back cover of "Seren Ironhand" it doesn't seem a fascinating adventure, IMHO.

Castle Zagyg Upper Works, UK seller



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Castle-Zagyg-Uppe ... 2564070113

Glad you can see the funny side.
I feel your pain.

I guess this item is for serious Traveller completists only:



http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Crystal-1985-T ... 1c1be88845



The sellers feedback is kinda odd though.    

beasterbrook wrote:
"This is the ONLY known copy of the game "

... really?

I'm doubtful too.  I can find a few images from the game on the internet so I think there are other copies known to be out there.  Wouldn't be surprised if you can find an online copy to download and play either.