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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:35 am 
 

I started trying to fill in all of my pre-d20 KoK stuff and couldn't come up with a definitive list.  Acaeum Wiki was missing at least a couple of items so I wasn't sure if there was anything else.  Does this list look complete?

K&C001 The Kingdoms of Kalamar (boxed set)
K&C002 The Kingdoms of Kalamar Volume I: Sourcebook of the Sovereign Lands
K&C003 The Kingdoms of Kalamar Volume II: Mythos of the Divine and Wordly
K&C004 The Kingdoms of Kalamar Full Color Map Set
K&C101 Tragedy in the House of Brodeln (BR1)
K&C102 Secret Temple of Adajy (RB1)
K&C103 Unguarded Hoard (SV1)
K&C104 The Hungry Dead (YK1)
K&C105 Night of the Rot Lord (WL1)
K&C106 The Scirocco's Kiss (KA1)
K&C107 A Foe In Need (YK2)
K&C108 Sometimes They Come Back (SV2)
K&C109 In Too Deep (KA2)
K&C110 Temple of the Bronze Flame (KA3)
K&C201 Game Master's Workshop Volume One: Beneath the Waves (GMW1)



Edited to include map pack.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:14 am 
 

I have some of the little digest books, and maybe the boxed set. They come up on eBay every now and then, but I don't think they're worth much, often selling at $5 a book or so. They're also not particularly good adventures.


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:36 am 
 

I'm pretty sure you have all the little digest sized books liksted.  Probably the only thing you are missing is:

K&C004 Kingdoms of Kalamar Full Color Map Set

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:16 am 
 

Your list (plus Mars' note) is everything.

001 contains 002-004, so unless you feel the need to own both, there is redundancy.  I believe 002-004 are the 1st printings, and then there was the box set as the 2nd printing, but that's just because I have never seen the box set with 1st printing books.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:57 am 
 

Mars wrote:I'm pretty sure you have all the little digest sized books liksted.  Probably the only thing you are missing is:

K&C004 Kingdoms of Kalamar Full Color Map Set


I'm fairly certain that there were only 8 of the digest sized adventures (very thin digest sized).  Weren't these reworked or reprinted as one or two full sized adventures?

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:07 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:
I'm fairly certain that there were only 8 of the digest sized adventures (very thin digest sized).  Weren't these reworked or reprinted as one or two full sized adventures?


Yep, K&C103 - 110 are the digest sized ones.  101 and 102 are letter sized.

Yes, the little books were compiled and reworked into a few of the Kalamar D20 adventures.

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:41 pm 
 

A few were redone for Hackmaster as well.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:44 pm 
 

Any idea if there is any difference between first and second printings?  Its on my list to check but haven't got around to it yet.

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:22 pm 
 

Awesome!  Thanks guys.  I figured that the map was probably sold seperately as well but I couldn't find any references to it anywhere.  Do the box sets show up with any frequency?  I admittedly haven't been looking hard but I don't recall seeing any recently.

  

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:37 pm 
 

You may have to wait a little while but they do show up - they don't seem exceptionally rare.  I prefer the maps from the individual set myself.  They are larger than the box so in the box set, they are rolled in half (rather than giving them an extra fold).  All of the items seems to sell fairly cheap.

A couple have some loose and fragile cover sheets as well so be careful that they are included and check on their condition.  Maybe it is just on "Beneath the Waves".

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:58 pm 
 

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:37 pm 
 

Mars wrote:You may have to wait a little while but they do show up - they don't seem exceptionally rare.  I prefer the maps from the individual set myself.  They are larger than the box so in the box set, they are rolled in half (rather than giving them an extra fold).  All of the items seems to sell fairly cheap.

A couple have some loose and fragile cover sheets as well so be careful that they are included and check on their condition.  Maybe it is just on "Beneath the Waves".


I remember that cover sheet, easily torn or frayed at the top. Was it just Beneath the Waves or did the other pre-d20s have it as well?

  

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JasonZavoda wrote:
I remember that cover sheet, easily torn or frayed at the top. Was it just Beneath the Waves or did the other pre-d20s have it as well?


I seem to think that it might have been on another book as well but I might just be fabricating memories.

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JasonZavoda wrote:
I remember that cover sheet, easily torn or frayed at the top. Was it just Beneath the Waves or did the other pre-d20s have it as well?


Okay maybe I am fabricating memories.  My Beneath the Waves doesn't have the cover sheet but Mythos of the Divine and Worldly does have it.  There is also a cover sheet for the map set.  It does make me wonder if Volume I: Sourcebook of the Sovereign Lands also came with a cover sheet (probably 1st print).

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:51 pm 
 

I'll just answer my own questions.  Yes Volume 1 also came with a cover sheet such as on amazon:



http://www.amazon.com/Sourcebook-Sovere ... B001H0CQQS

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:18 pm 
 

In now trying to find a 1st print of the Sovereign Lands book it seems like most of the pre D20 stuff is not readily available anymore.

I have a couple 2nd prints of Sovereign Lands if anyone is looking.

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:04 am 
 

Mars wrote:Any idea if there is any difference between first and second printings?  Its on my list to check but haven't got around to it yet.


I think the first printings of the two main books have the outer cover and the second printings in the box don't.  But I've never bothered to confirm it.

Those are the only ones with outer covers, as far as I know.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:29 pm 
 

Printing update!

My second printing books in the box have tan covers.  Perusing another Acaeumer's collection yesterday, we found first printing books with dark grey covers (no box).

I swear I've seen pictures of outer color covers as well.  As soon as I think of where, I'll make a note of it here.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:47 pm 
 

I have 3 copies of the Sovereign Lands book and all are 2nd printings.  The colour of the cover does seem to vary a bit between more greyish and more browish.

The colour wrap around covers are loose on the books and were available with the ones that sold separately.  I have one but it is in shrink so I haven't opened it to see if it is a 1st print or not.  I also just placed an order for the other one.  Chances are that the colour cover sheets were lost or destroyed if the shrink was opened and the book not stored in a plastic bag - they are rather fragile.

I think the open questions are:

1) Did 1st print books (sold individually) come with colour wraparound covers?
2) Did 2nd print books (sold individually) come with colour wraparound covers?

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:44 pm 
 

3) Did any box sets have 1st print books?

The color difference I noticed was significant - tan/beige (2nd) vs. significantly dark grey (1st).

  
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