One that got away :o(
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 3 of 41, 2, 3, 4
Author

User avatar

Prolific Collector

Posts: 326
Joined: Dec 28, 2009
Last Visit: Oct 17, 2020
Location: Belgium

Post Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:09 am 
 

Anyone here picked up Pagan's weapon's compendium ?

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **





It completely slipped my mind  :cry:

  


Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 5660
Joined: Nov 16, 2002
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Wichita, KS, USA

Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:44 am 
 

I know TheHistorian was gunning for it, but I didn't bid this time around Ralph.

I did talk with John Tynes, and he thinks that the version that sold was the first printing.


Allan Grohe ([email protected])
Greyhawk, grodog Style

Editor and Project Manager, Black Blade Publishing
https://www.facebook.com/BlackBladePublishing/

 WWW  

User avatar

Sage Collector

Posts: 2566
Joined: Aug 02, 2006
Last Visit: Sep 20, 2021
Location: Seattle, WA

Post Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:37 am 
 

Not me.  I dropped out around $100.  Looks like a couple wanted it a bit more than that.  Not too concerned, as I've been picking up some even better stuff lately...


Areas of interest/knowledge: Harn, WFRP, Ars Magica, anything BRP based such as CoC, Runequest, Pendragon and all their related games

  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:37 am 
 

I had been overbid simply beacuse i was not there at the very end of the auction... a pity:

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **



I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:18 am 
 

Hey all, this time i completely forgot to login and snipe it:

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **

...at the end of the day, it had been a good bargain for the winner! Hope he's somebody of the Acaeum...


I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  


Sage Collector
JG Valuation Board
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 2044
Joined: Aug 28, 2006
Last Visit: Mar 11, 2021
Location: Tashkent, Uzbekistan

Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:32 am 
 

Indeed! Whoever won that auction will be happy. Wish I had seen it ....

  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:21 am 
 

Indeed! My problem instead is being present for the "final battle"... but since 99% of the times the auction ends at sunday evening, i am never online... that sucks...


I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:45 am 
 

Did i miss smtg interesting in here:

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **

i've never heard sucha zine and couldnt find a lot about it in a quick search... (maybe Brette has some info...)

ciaooo


I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 2459
Joined: Nov 06, 2002
Last Visit: Oct 06, 2021
Location: Queensland, Australia

Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:01 am 
 

Missed that one.. the magazine is Sewars.. hard one to find, come up rarely at least 31 issues..

Brette:)


Being healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

 WWW  

User avatar

Long-Winded Collector

Posts: 3155
Joined: Nov 21, 2005
Last Visit: Feb 05, 2016
Location: UK

Post Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:11 pm 
 

aia wrote:Did i miss smtg interesting in here:

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **

i've never heard sucha zine and couldnt find a lot about it in a quick search... (maybe Brette has some info...)

ciaooo

"SF Wars": that's kinda cute. Can you play that while sitting down in your Character Archair? ^^
(The first issue of Thunderstruck would've been a larger "miss" IMO: rough looking condition on both of those but it's the content that counts, no?).

beasterbrook wrote:Missed that one.. the magazine is Sewars.. hard one to find, come up rarely at least 31 issues..

Brette:)

=> Image

I'm missing around half of those prior to the 'zine evolving into Games Gazette. (Spare copies of #22 and #29 (only?), fwiw).


"7.3 ORGANIZING THE PARTY: Always have a keg, even if it's BYOB...
7.4 TAKING THE GAME SERIOUSLY: Don't"

  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:34 am 
 

faro wrote:"SF Wars": that's kinda cute. Can you play that while sitting down in your Character Archair? ^^
(The first issue of Thunderstruck would've been a larger "miss" IMO: rough looking condition on both of those but it's the content that counts, no?).


SEWARS... d'oh... i was thinking to "SF smtg", hence science fiction, hence not in scope for me... next time i need to pay more attention!

FYI the thunderstruck #1 hasnt been missed... eheheh...


I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Acaeum Donor

Posts: 2459
Joined: Nov 06, 2002
Last Visit: Oct 06, 2021
Location: Queensland, Australia

Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:29 pm 
 

Thunderstruck#1 looks in quite nice condition.. and a great pick up for that price!

Brette:)


Being healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

 WWW  


Sage Collector
JG Valuation Board

Posts: 2758
Joined: Feb 10, 2003
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Olde London Towne

Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:50 am 
 

I forgot to put another bid on this copy of Necromican, and it went unposted here. Anyone recall what these go for?

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **



Let's go fly a kite
Up to the highest height!

  

User avatar

Prolific Collector

Posts: 326
Joined: Dec 28, 2009
Last Visit: Oct 17, 2020
Location: Belgium

Post Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:32 pm 
 

That's what I get for not checking my ebay automated search notifications for a few weeks

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **

dammit !



  

User avatar

Sage Collector
Valuation Board

Posts: 2765
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 25, 2021
Location: Italy

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 am 
 

Hey all, during the summer break i missed this one:

** eBay auction listing blocked.  Please enable cookies in your browser for this site and for eBay! **

...now, it seems an "ordinary" (even if uncommon) item, but if you look clase at it you will find that it is a different format.. kind of the booklets of the white box (for both of them)... am i right? in case, what is this version? a pre pub?

ciaooo


I am the servant of the Secret Maps, Wielder of the flame of Clone!
You cannot quote! The dark spam will not avail you, flame of Udun.
Go back to the Shadow! You... cannot... post!!!

 WWW  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 6095
Joined: May 03, 2003
Last Visit: Oct 24, 2021
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:13 pm 
 

I looked at this auction and I think they are fakes.

 WWW  

User avatar

Long-Winded Collector

Posts: 3155
Joined: Nov 21, 2005
Last Visit: Feb 05, 2016
Location: UK

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:54 pm 
 

Bill will know but for whatever reason that sure looks like copier banding on the cover of The Complete Warlock and there's a general lack of true "black". Fwiw, the seller says they automatically xeroxed the contents of their 4th print OD&D set but there are no further "copies" of these two books.


"7.3 ORGANIZING THE PARTY: Always have a keg, even if it's BYOB...
7.4 TAKING THE GAME SERIOUSLY: Don't"

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 6095
Joined: May 03, 2003
Last Visit: Oct 24, 2021
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:05 pm 
 

Here's the quote from the seller on the white box auction:

taphilo wrote:As stated, I Xeroxed anything used often and wrote all notes in regular notebooks and so seldom had to open the books.

 WWW  


Verbose Collector

Posts: 1734
Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Last Visit: Oct 24, 2021

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:34 pm 
 

whil i have been wrong before, i don't think they are "fakes". at the very least it certainly is 30+ year old paper. the seller assured me (for whatever that is worth) that these are the exact items he purchased straight from balboa back in the late 70's. what i can't fathom is why anyone would have gone to the trouble of photocopying and reducing the size of the books to make them digest-sized. so while they "looked" like potential fakes in the ebay listing, holding them in my hands i think not. that hardly ends the mystery of why they are the way they are though.


Shrink is not a condition

  

User avatar

Grandstanding Collector

Posts: 6095
Joined: May 03, 2003
Last Visit: Oct 24, 2021
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada

Post Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:06 pm 
 

The seller stated that he xerox'd anything he used (or thought he might use) so I'm sure the paper should match up to the correct time period.  The staples don't quite look right to me (but maybe its just the picture) - all of my Balboa items have the same size staples.

I think it is clear by looking at the margins and where the page number appears that the books have been size reduced.  The seller would have had this done to save on price - half the number of sheets of paper and the machine would have done it for him.

I think a better question would be why would Balboa release a product like this?

By the late 70s when these were released, Balboa was an established company which printed 10 or so issues of Spartan magazine and a few wargames and were a games distributor.  The production values on all of these items are very good:
* colour covers
* professionally trimmed - no pages sticking out like the Ebay books
* pages are filled with text, small margins and multicolumn - Ebay books have lots of wasted space in margins
The Balboa items that I have which are solid colour cardstock covers with black ink use a texture paper (such as Spartan #9) or a parchment type paper but the Ebay books look like a flat cardstock.

The Ebay books look like something that was put together by hand and never trimmed (which fits for a 1 off xerox) but doesn't fit with any of the Balboa products that came before or after.

Then also consider the timeline of production dates:
Spartan #9 is copyright Aug 1975
Complete Warlock is July 1978
Warlock's Tower is 1979

From 1975-78, Balboa would have understood the demand for such a book and put it into production.  I find it doubtful they would have created such a subpar product to test the market especially when Spartan #9 is essentially Complete Warlock and has much higher production values.  Complete Warlock has at least 5 different colour cover prints - I'm pretty sure at least some of these colour cover versions would have been out before Warlock's Tower was released.  So why then would Balboa revert back to another subpar production quality for book 2?  Both books in the Ebay auction look like they are on the same paper which doesn't make sense since they weren't released at the same time.

The quality of the books and timing don't make any sense as something Balboa would release but fits right in with the seller's practices of xeroxing.  The seller may have thought these were the copies he bought 30+ years ago but probably hasn't thought about for the last 25 so that memory is undoubtable foggy.  I can't see these as being anything but reproductions made by the seller - sorry Bill.  It just doesn't make any sense for Balboa to go through and create all the art, do the layout and then sell copies that were put together by hand when everything else they release for 5 years previous were "professionally" done.

 WWW  
PreviousNext
Post new topic Reply to topic Page 3 of 41, 2, 3, 4