Gnat the Beggar wrote:Looks good to me. I know you will continue to keep us updated, so my thanks in advance.I would like to be placed on a wait list, if one is made...
Gnat the Beggar wrote:I guess this thread took on a whole other life than what was originally intended... Somehow I am not surprised in the least. However; My interest in the original intent of this thread remains unchanged.Three years ago (perhaps even more) the DVD box was in the proofing stages and the artwork for the DVD was being looked over.IIRC: The PDF was being looked over by folks all over the globe.Any news on the production front?
ScketreWhisp wrote:I wish someone could take the time to flesh out the PotVQ to make it real "complete" module. Then I'd love to print a full size copy with a scan of each original page next to the new fleshed out page and a bit of history in the module about the product, Wee Warriors, Peter etc... then Peter could sign them at the Con in 2012.
ScketreWhisp® wrote:Mike told me not to post... but hey, I am going to post... it's a long post, I didn't have time to read it for grammar, spelling etc, read it all though before beating me down about some part of it.
ScketreWhisp® wrote:...since the law is not "broken" until the land owner files charges.. if he never files charges, you never broke the law. Sounds outside the box, but think about it. So I believe it's the same for copyright law.
ScketreWhisp® wrote:I wish someone could take the time to flesh out the PotVQ to make it real "complete" module.
ScketreWhisp® wrote:You read it the way you wanted to I guess...What I am telling you is this.Some laws can be enforced by the police etc.. ie: you break a law and the police can enforce it whether someone files charges or not.Other laws are not "broken" until someone presses charges... I am not saying it's legal, I am not saying it's okay to do, I am not saying the law hasn't really been broken at all... I am saying, unless someone presses their rights, you aren't going to get in trouble...If you park at a parking meter and don't pay, IF a cop sees you, he will write you a ticket... OR if someone calls the police you might get a ticket... ie: if you get caught... not what I am talking about... on the other hand, if you punch your wife in the face, that is assault... doesn't matter if the police see it or not... they won't take you to jail unless your wife presses charges for assault.... (in some circumstances if the police believe your wife is in continued danger of assault and there is also repeated history of same, they can take you off to jail) ... but assault, which is illegal, isn't really assault if the party being hurt doesn't file charges... even though the assault law was broken.So, all I mean to say is, copyright law is there. You are not suppose to break that law. If you want to reprint something and you have spoken to the copyright owner via whatever means.. email, phone call, letter etc. and the owner says "no you can't do it" then of course you should not do it. If the owner won't reply, won't give you the time of day, won't bother to respond, then give it a try and see what happens... if you get smacked for it, then don't do it again since the smack could be a C&D or it could be a lawsuit or jail time...In the case of Wee Warriors, Peter said I could make the PDF, said I could flesh it out and print copies etc.. He agreed to everything we spoke about... then didn't hear from me for 5 years... maybe that's why he didn't "remember" .. maybe he thought I dropped the idea... but when I called him back about it in July, he had no problems with any of it and remembered the phone calls... so [Peter saying, "I don't care what you do," is hardly enough] is incorrect... and again, if Peter had said that he didn't want me to do it, I would not. I also would have been more than happy to give him the $1000 made on selling the PotVQ & Dwarven Glory if he had asked just as well as I'd give WotC the $1580.00 I received for the Ghost Towers if they want it. (I actually donated the entire $1318 in profit from the GT booklets to something else so the Con got no funds from it after all)Again, I am not suggesting anyone break any laws. I am only saying do things knowing there is a risk and some laws aren't "broken" until someone presses the issue.There are other things I'd like the Con to reprint, and I am working to get consent from the proper copyright holders. Will I attempt to reprint something I don't actually have "yes" or "it's okay" for, probably not... but it really depends... if it's a module my friend wrote and printed 20 copies of in 1982 and he is now dead, was an only child, never married and his parents are dead as well.. I might just print it anyway and see if I get in trouble....
MetamorphosisSigma wrote:...downloaded and printed out pirated .pdfs of the entire TSR catalog and distributed copies to their friends for $1 apiece, because the likelihood of WotC pressing charges in negligible.
ScketreWhisp® wrote:I was hoping WotC would be like Wee Warriors and not care...
ScketreWhisp® wrote:I took a chance, printed some GT copies, didn't like the outcome, decided not to do it again... I never said is was legal or right to do, I was hoping WotC would be like Wee Warriors and not care, I was wrong, so I moved on.
Blackmoor wrote:Wow is this thread ever going to end!!