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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:59 pm 
 

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Anyone know why this is a $40-$85 book?



Also, I am constantly irritated by sellers that state that they aren't responsible for a package once they put it in the mail. If it disappears they better have proof that it was shipped and if it arrives damaged they better require insurance (not just make it optional) because how does the buyer know it wasn't damaged before it was placed in the package.



A buyer is responsible for paying promptly, that is it. Everything else is in the sellers hands.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:12 pm 
 

The price would be related to the fact that it's well regarded by fans of the 3.x system, it only had one print run (AFAIK), and there are no plans to reprint as far as anyone has heard.



There's a copy up to $51 here:  
** expired eBay auction **




I'm watching simply because I'm curious as to how high it will go.


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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:20 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:Also, I am constantly irritated by sellers that state that they aren't responsible for a package once they put it in the mail. If it disappears they better have proof that it was shipped and if it arrives damaged they better require insurance (not just make it optional) because how does the buyer know it wasn't damaged before it was placed in the package.

A buyer is responsible for paying promptly, that is it. Everything else is in the sellers hands.

I disagree ... to a point.

I agree that sellers ought to have strong evidence that it was shipped. It's next to impossible to have real proof, though. A delivery confirmation number is usually good enough. (And since it's free for domestic US stuff done online, why *wouldn't* you do it?)

But as both a buyer and seller, I want insurance to be optional. As a buyer, if insurance is mandatory, I can be sure the seller jacked up the price to cover insurance, as well as eBay's cut of the increased price. Because insurance is usually a big fat rip off. You can be sure the USPS makes buckets and buckets of profit from insurance.

Personally, as a buyer, I'd rather take the risk and I usually forgo insurance. See, if I'm buying a bunch of items for $30 each, and if insurance is $2 each, I need one out of every 15 of those to be lost or damaged in order for insurance actually worth the cost. And in my experience, USPS just isn't that bad. I'd rather suck up the rare $30 lost item, since it costs me less in the long run. (In my eBay rating history, which is, admittedly, only 133, I've personally only seen one item that was lost or damaged, and this includes at least 30 international transactions.)

As a seller, I want the buyer to be able to make the same informed decision. I'll offer insurance, but I won't force it.

But there are exceptions. If I was ever involved in a transaction for a rare, I'd probably want insurance to be mandatory. The incremental increase in cost relative to the potential for devaluation is much more reasonable.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:41 pm 
 

Afraid of the Dark wrote:I disagree ... to a point.

I agree that sellers ought to have strong evidence that it was shipped. It's next to impossible to have real proof, though. A delivery confirmation number is usually good enough. (And since it's free for domestic US stuff done online, why *wouldn't* you do it?)

But as both a buyer and seller, I want insurance to be optional. As a buyer, if insurance is mandatory, I can be sure the seller jacked up the price to cover insurance, as well as eBay's cut of the increased price. Because insurance is usually a big fat rip off. You can be sure the USPS makes buckets and buckets of profit from insurance.

Personally, as a buyer, I'd rather take the risk and I usually forgo insurance. See, if I'm buying a bunch of items for $30 each, and if insurance is $2 each, I need one out of every 15 of those to be lost or damaged in order for insurance actually worth the cost. And in my experience, USPS just isn't that bad. I'd rather suck up the rare $30 lost item, since it costs me less in the long run. (In my eBay rating history, which is, admittedly, only 133, I've personally only seen one item that was lost or damaged, and this includes at least 30 international transactions.)

As a seller, I want the buyer to be able to make the same informed decision. I'll offer insurance, but I won't force it.

But there are exceptions. If I was ever involved in a transaction for a rare, I'd probably want insurance to be mandatory. The incremental increase in cost relative to the potential for devaluation is much more reasonable.


I've been on ebay 11 years and sent tens of thousands of packages, and the number damaged and lost I can count on one hand. I also use delivery confirmation. I don't use insurance because it hasn't been necessary. Has anyone here had to collect on USPS insurance?

Delivery confirmation counts as proof of shipping to paypal. Not sure what else does.

But the liability for damages and showing proof of shipping is the sellers. If they want to pass the cost onto the buyer it is up to them. I'm not sure if it would hurt sales or not since buyers seem to only look at the auction price (in general) and not the total cost with shipping.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:41 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:
** expired eBay auction **


Anyone know why this is a $40-$85 book?





As stated earlier, its got only one printing, is oop, and Privateer Press has some of the best writing I've seen (not to mention art) from a 3.x company. And I'll admit I'm a fan boy for them.



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Post Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:11 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:
** expired eBay auction **


Anyone know why this is a $40-$85 book?





Iron Kingdoms is a great setting, and Privateer is a great company. :)


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