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Post Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:31 am 
 

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Shipping was reasonable at only $10 or so. :D


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:29 pm 
 

grodog wrote:I don't know, Ian, since my order from 11/11 hasn't arrived yet:  I guess I need to call Steve to check up on it.


I just touched base with Steve, and he's waiting on an additional printing of the maps that need to be fixed (from our group's GenCon purchases), so he should be able to ship by mid-week or so.  

@ Ian:  Steve said he can back-order more copies if you want me to do that, but shipping is still killer:  $50 for 2 boxes to ship to the UK.  Do you still want them??


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:41 pm 
 

grodog wrote:
Ian:  Steve said he can back-order more copies if you want me to do that, but shipping is still killer:  $50 for 2 boxes to ship to the UK.  Do you still want them??


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:27 pm 
 

Just got my Upper Works today from FRP Games off Ebay...good packaging and sent quickly, plus total with shipping is under cover price.  I'd recommend them!

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:52 am 
 

I finally finished my review of the CZ:UW boxed set, and you can read it at http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... _final.pdf


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:40 pm 
 

grodog wrote:I finally finished my review of the CZ:UW boxed set, and you can read it at http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... _final.pdf


Wow that is some comprehensive review.  Thanks for it :)


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:40 pm 
 

Blackmoor wrote:
Wow that is some comprehensive review.  Thanks for it :)


Yeah!  What he said.  I only read about twelve pages of it, but I got the idea.  Good writing, and I'm sure very helpful for those considering it.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:41 am 
 

grodog wrote:I finally finished my review of the CZ:UW boxed set, and you can read it at http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... _final.pdf


Great review, made me sad though. Gygax is gone, brought it home, and an amazing era has ended, but the same crap is following his work.

The part I like best is him telling everyone, companies and fans both, that this is a game first and foremost to have fun with, and also that it was his puppy before it became everyone elses dog.

I will be doing that index (lotsa good and bad stuff getting in the way of course) but more indexing work is to come.

Thanks for all your work on this, bet you had fun reading through the set though. Now to get to run or play it.

  


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:42 am 
 

Thanks for the comments everyone!

@ Jason:  I was really hopeful that we'd have some allusion on the level 2 dungeon to where Bottle City was located, but that's clearly not to be at this point... *sigh*


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:55 am 
 

I was very happy and excited to see the many references to the Black Reservoir.  I feel as though I played a small part in bringing that area to light, so it was very satisfying to see it mentioned!!!  Too bad that wasn't one of the area that will be developed by EGG himself in the future.

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 1:49 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:I was very happy and excited to see the many references to the Black Reservoir.  I feel as though I played a small part in bringing that area to light, so it was very satisfying to see it mentioned!!!  Too bad that wasn't one of the area that will be developed by EGG himself in the future.


Mike:  you didn't "play a small part in bringing that area to light"---you freaking rediscovered the thing!  It's possible that Paul Stormberg already had a copy, but even if he did, you're the one who published it to Greytalk, and first made it available to GH fans world-wide :D


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:30 pm 
 

grodog wrote:
Mike:  you didn't "play a small part in bringing that area to light"---you freaking rediscovered the thing!  It's possible that Paul Stormberg already had a copy, but even if he did, you're the one who published it to Greytalk, and first made it available to GH fans world-wide :D


Let's hear the whole story, Mike. :)  You and Grodog have dropped enough teasers to whet the RPG-lore appetites.  Spill it. Spill it. Spill it.:)


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:12 pm 
 

The story is archived on my site @ http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... voir1.html
and http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... voir2.html

I'll let Mike relate the story itself.


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:20 pm 
 

grodog wrote:The story is archived on my site @ http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... voir1.html
and http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh ... voir2.html

I'll let Mike relate the story itself.


I think there is a thread on it somewhere here.  The upshot is, EGG wrote a story for a small print fanzine (that mostly covered PBM Diplomacy games, btw), The Conquistador, in exchange for free advertising for his then-new D&D game (this was in 1975). The story was basically a retelling of a Castle Greyhawk adventure by the character Erac and three others (I believe Ernie Gygax and a couple of other friends)  to a place called the Black Reservoir in Castle Greyhawks lower levels, complete with flying dinosaurs, sea serpents, and evil mage.  Anyway, EGG apparantly forgot the story even existed, not having a copy for himself.

In the mid-90s, I lucked upon a small set of the Conquistador fanzines, one with the Black Reservoir story within.  Eventually I contacted EGG, and who was very pleased and excited to get a copy after all those years.  With his permission the story was publshed on Greytalk, and for the first time in about 25 years the Black Reservoir portion of Castle Greyhawk came to light.

What's great is that this is a very rare item, and we are lucky copies survived, as I have only heard of a very small handful still around (like, maybe two others).  I actually saw another copy this year at Gencon, it was the Black Reservoir story in another later issue of Conquistador (obviously the editor reprinted the tale at a later time, maybe he and EGG had worked out some sort of mulitple publication for free advertising).  I guess the most interesting part is just the fact EGG completely FORGOT he had even written the tale until I sent him a copy; wonder if there are any other "forgotten" EGG tales floating around out there no one has located yet?  Better check out all the mid-70s fanzines you find just in case!!!

I'd urge anyone interested to go to Grodog's site and read the story; it's brief but memorable, and it's hard after reading to not start jonesing for a little Castle Greyhawk action!  Maybe someone someday can work up a "Black Reservoir" level based on the info within...

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:56 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:I'd urge anyone interested to go to Grodog's site and read the story; it's brief but memorable, and it's hard after reading to not start jonesing for a little Castle Greyhawk action!  Maybe someone someday can work up a "Black Reservoir" level based on the info within...


FWIW, I will map the story at some point soon, as part of my EGG tribute efforts.


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:48 pm 
 

Sci-Fi Genre also has it for $35.95 and reasonable shipping:

http://www.scifigenre.com/itemDetail.as ... ddedType=1


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:12 pm 
 

bombadil wrote:Sci-Fi Genre also has it for $35.95 and reasonable shipping:

http://www.scifigenre.com/itemDetail.as ... ddedType=1


They offer free domestic shipping on orders over $75. Very reasonable.

Why these sets are being sold at a %20 discount brand new is beyond me, but they are probably going to jump from discounted to collectable very quickly.

What was the print run on this set?

  


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Post Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:26 pm 
 

The Yggsburgh hardback is now $10 ($17.50 with shipping) and will no longer be available after the 31st.
(FYI, it's been sold at $10 previously during periodic sales)

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Use the paypal buttons to the LEFT, on the PAGE. In the "Add special instructions to merchant" section - please put the TITLE of the book of your choice in the memo section of your paypal receipt. The Players Handbook 3rd printing and the M&T 2nd printing are almost sold out, get them while you can! And Gary Gygax's Yggsburgh will no longer be available after the 31st of this month!


(Or you can also get a free Yggsburgh with a Crusader subscription)

No Upper Works during their 12 day sale ... any chance of a Upper Works fire sale before the end of the month? Will they really trash all of their remaining unsold stock, or instead sell it off bulk at a big discount to a 3rd party (e.g. Noble Knight)? Or was the printing low enough that they'll sell out without problem?

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:41 am 
 

I imagine they and Goodman will sell to a 3rd party all their old stock, but that's just my guess.  I really can't see them destroying what is already printed.
Now if Steve would reply to my email..I need to replace book 5 if possible from the Upper Works since some of it got cut wrong.  If not really no biggie.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:52 am 
 

any chance of a Upper Works fire sale before the end of the month?


Don't count on it.

Will they really trash all of their remaining unsold stock, or instead sell it off bulk at a big discount to a 3rd party (e.g. Noble Knight)?


One or the other. But, I don't think it'll be sold at a "big discount."

Or was the printing low enough that they'll sell out without problem?


Only the Trolls know the print run. Maybe they cut it short because they knew they'd only have X months to sell? Maybe they didn't. Either is not an excuse to not buy the year -- no, the decade's best adventure.


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