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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:23 am 
 

I think people are sitting on them, in part because of apprehension about what they're really worth after that insane burn-through of a buy up.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:39 am 
 

We've seen plenty of movement with CZ:UW. I'm just surprised the other products don't crop up that often. Especially seeing as the print runs are likely in the thousands. I'll take a look on Amazon, but their priced don't tend to be that accurate.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:11 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:We've seen plenty of movement with CZ:UW.


By that you mean in the UK?


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:25 am 
 

What I mean is there have been enough copies of CZ:UW selling since Xmas last, that I can estimate the value in the market. Currently the market value of CZ:UW is sitting somewhere about the $165 mark. This explains the stock on Amazon, NKG and the odd auction that crops up, not moving or being bought.

If you want to sell CZ:UW, put it on eBay at $150 and it'll sell within a few days. But I haven't been able to monitor enough of the other CZ products to assess value.

There are too many CZ:Yggsburgh's on the market for it to become a collectable any time soon, however, it being the CZ campaign setting, and realistically, the core work for that campaign setting, it seems to be safe to assume it will not drop below $20 (unlike much of the hardbacks WoTC put out).

But the gazetteer, districts and the likes seem to have no predictable market value. CZ:EMG is listed on NKG at $55, on eBay at $49 and on Amazon at $999. But there are no past sales. Similar tale with the Districts, and I'm still looking for a copy of CZ:DC. Would just have expected a higher volume of sales, unless the product line is of such a quality that those who bought copies do not wish to get rid of them.

I also suspect that eBay UK now filters out large numbers of auctions just to be bloody minded.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:46 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:What I mean is there have been enough copies of CZ:UW selling since Xmas last, that I can estimate the value in the market. Currently the market value of CZ:UW is sitting somewhere about the $165 mark. This explains the stock on Amazon, NKG and the odd auction that crops up, not moving or being bought.

In case you missed an Amazon copy that sold last month, you can add a data point at $189.99.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:24 pm 
 

There really doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in the other books aside from UW.



I picked up another Yggsburgh and Dark Chateau just the other day for $21.50:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0162893850



The other books sell for similarly dismal prices but don't really come up all that often.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:36 pm 
 

I missed that one.  :(
Only really interested in DC though.


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:55 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:In case you missed an Amazon copy that sold last month, you can add a data point at $189.99.


I've sold 5 copies through private sales from $130 to an acaeum member and $190, $190, $210 and $215 to non-members during the last six months.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:48 pm 
 

Mars wrote:There really doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in the other books aside from UW.

I picked up another Yggsburgh and Dark Chateau just the other day for $21.50:


** expired eBay auction **


The other books sell for similarly dismal prices but don't really come up all that often.




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Post Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:13 pm 
 

I bet I could sell them at that price and make a tidy profit.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:55 am 
 

I've not been able to sell at those prices in the UK, presumable because UK buyers are either not sufficiently aware of CZ as a whole, or not sufficiently interested in buying into it. That said, I've not been able to find CZ product available through any of the usual UK retailers, so I am wondering just how much product actually came to the UK in the first place. Most places seem to have out of stock listings, so would seem to have stocked at one point, but unless there are collectors out therew buying this stuff up, it would seem as though UK stock levels were always very low.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:58 am 
 

I don't think the limited number of stores who stocked CZ is limited to the UK.  The UK had a few places such as Leisure Games, etc.  Canada also had a couple like The Sentry Box and Le Valet.  I think the US was pretty limited too.  Earlier this year, I went through a good portion of the stores listed on the TLG website and most didn`t have any items.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:46 pm 
 

T&T have TLG's CZ:UW in VGC for $80.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:35 pm 
 

I'm about to start an AD&D 1st Ed. campaign based around CZ.  I have Upper Works, Yggsburgh (coming soon) and Dark Chateau.  From a gaming point of view, is there anything else that I should be thinking of getting hold of?


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:04 pm 
 

That's the core products.

The districts supplements just fluff up Yggsburgh, and the East Marks Gazetteer again is just fluff rushed out to fill a gap in demand prior to CZ:UW bein released, a huge chunk of which was just reprinted in the CZ:UW boxed set. There was also a PDF or two that didn't make print, and some snippets in Crusader.

Bottom line is, if you have Yggsburgh, Upper Works and Dark Chateau, you have 90+% of the material printed, and everything you'll need for a solid campaign.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:37 pm 
 

Grand, thanks mate. :D


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:54 pm 
 

There is also a fan written extension to CZUW, which has dug down to levels 2-6A so far, and work on level 7 is progressing.

You can check the status at http://thegrognardslawn.blogspot.com

Link to latest version:  http://rapidshare.com/files/236882376/WG13_0905b.pdf



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Post Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:12 pm 
 

Is there a CZ:UW pdf to buy yet?

Although, I'd say that the T&T $80 one is a good buy currently at that price.


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