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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:30 am 
 

grodog wrote:Another one just sold for $134.99 too:  
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I got knocked out in the first round on that one,  :lol:   Oh well, I'm sure another one will come up the closer we get to convention time.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:37 am 
 

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I got knocked out in the first round on that one,  :lol:   Oh well, I'm sure another one will come up the closer we get to convention time.


what are the usual cost of them?



  

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:19 am 
 

Lately, they seem to be selling far a bit less than a month ago.

A month ago, you could expect as much as $250, and certainly around $200.

Now it looks like with some patience, one can be had for around $135....

While at Mikes house this past weekend (Playing D&D) someone said that he thought the folks who were willing to spend $200 or more have one now and wont pay that anymore.

Now the folks who stopped bidding shy of that mark back then are still looking.

Sounds plausible to me.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:23 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:
what are the usual cost of them?


$49.99 I think.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:38 am 
 

Aneoth wrote:Lately, they seem to be selling far a bit less than a month ago.

A month ago, you could expect as much as $250, and certainly around $200.

Now it looks like with some patience, one can be had for around $135....

While at Mikes house this past weekend (Playing D&D) someone said that he thought the folks who were willing to spend $200 or more have one now and wont pay that anymore.

Now the folks who stopped bidding shy of that mark back then are still looking.

Sounds plausible to me.


Very true.  Mine sold for 149.99 but now I don't have a "hold onto" copy.  After reading about multiple copy holders, it occured to me that selling it was short sighted *but apparently well timed*.  Now it's going to bounce around for a while until the supply/demand settles out.  You never know when you might find one for "cheap" so you just keep poking away with the sharp stick until you do.  

The next couple of months will probably see quite a few hit ebay, I would guess that some will end below the $100. mark simply because the those who can spend it, already have.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:57 am 
 

if they are only $49.99, why are they selling for 3 x that? limited run or something?

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:07 am 
 

killjoy32 wrote:if they are only $49.99, why are they selling for 3 x that? limited run or something?

Print run between GenCon and December 31st 2008.
Gail Gygax pulled TLG's license to EGG's works.
Probably only about 500 copies or so, and fewer than 30 made it to the UK market through Esvidium. Very few made it to continental Europe or Australia. Of the rest, maybe 50% went into the US distribution chain and the remainder were sold directly by TLG prior to December 2008.

So you have a combination of a product that is EGG's final magnum opus, the last rendition of Castle Greyhawk, and by all accounts well controlled through the design process by EGG, so fairly as he wanted to present it. Add to that the fact that it really is well written, EGG proving that he was still on the top of his game, a very limited print run, and that any future product will more than likely be 4E or LA (which will kill the traditional D&D feel or the product), and you have one instant collectable and much sought after item.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:59 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Print run between GenCon and December 31st 2008.
Gail Gygax pulled TLG's license to EGG's works.
Probably only about 500 copies or so, and fewer than 30 made it to the UK market through Esvidium. Very few made it to continental Europe or Australia. Of the rest, maybe 50% went into the US distribution chain and the remainder were sold directly by TLG prior to December 2008.

So you have a combination of a product that is EGG's final magnum opus, the last rendition of Castle Greyhawk, and by all accounts well controlled through the design process by EGG, so fairly as he wanted to present it. Add to that the fact that it really is well written, EGG proving that he was still on the top of his game, a very limited print run, and that any future product will more than likely be 4E or LA (which will kill the traditional D&D feel or the product), and you have one instant collectable and much sought after item.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:15 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Add to that the fact that it really is well written


Indeed.  It's really a pleasure to read.  I haven't run it yet, but am assuming it would be fun and challenging.  

Bottom line:  this thing is gem.  If you got in early, you really scored.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:38 pm 
 

I am of the opinion that it should have been released as a harback, as previously postulated by TLG. It would have been a perfect match for Yggsburgh and have stood the test of time much better. On the upside, the boxed sets will get bashed and damaged and deteriorate a lot faster, which, seeing as I am a dealer better suits me. But with my collector's hat on, I would have prefered a hardback, and there could have been lots of battered copies of a well used hardback doing the round in 20 years time.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:49 pm 
 

I'd say if you ever see these at $50 snap them up. I believe that at $100 each they are a damn good investment (If you believe that doubling your money within a five year period qualifies).

But even spending $130 or so at this point is not wasted money for someone who wants to own and play this wonderful adventure. To appreciate it you have to like Gygax's work and the early AD&D type of adventures. If you do then Upper Works is a treasure.

I think there are more than 500 or so people on this earth who will absolutely treasure this item and frankly I don't believe there will be enough of these to go around.

  


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:52 pm 
 

Ian, your avvy freaks me out every time I see it.  That looks exactly like one of my cats.

Personally, I'm glad it's in the flimsy box.  It kind of forces you to handle it with awe and respect.  Too many glossy hardback rulebooks and adventure supps out there already (although I do like Necropolis). :D


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:55 pm 
 

Agree with Jason.
Not enough of them for the folks who REALLY want them.

That said, they wont likely ever go below $100 in market value again and in 10 years time could easily go for $300 plus....
If copies for sale can even be found at all.

How likely is it that Gail G. will release her grip long enough to allow another release of the material in ANY format?
And I feel it is even less likely that it will ever be reprinted in anything like its current format.


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:00 pm 
 

i dont particularly want one, but wouldnt have minded giving it a read....oh well you never know :)

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:30 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i dont particularly want one, but wouldnt have minded giving it a read....oh well you never know :)

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:04 pm 
 

killjoy32 wrote:i dont particularly want one, but wouldnt have minded giving it a read....oh well you never know :)
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grodog wrote:And Joe Bloch continues his continuance, with level 5, "The Deeps" @ http://greyhawkgrognard.blogspot.com/20 ... lease.html


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