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Post Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:28 am 
 

Mars wrote:I've picked up a few copies of the Castle Zagyg modules and was wondering if anyone else has noticed if there might be 2 prints for Town Halls?  I have one copy where the ink is considerably darker than the other.


I only know of the two printings for this, GenCon first drafts 52 pages, then 2nd print 44 pages.

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:51 pm 
 

These are going for over $200, yet no one touched this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0373048412



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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:57 pm 
 

Gus Landt wrote:These are going for over $200, yet no one touched this one:

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Any ideas why?




My guess:  Because it's a BIN.  It's no fun if you can't outbid some other poor slob while hopefully getting a good deal.  No one wants to pull the trigger on a $179 BIN for a relatively new item regardless of its perceived worth.



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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:43 pm 
 

Gus Landt wrote:These are going for over $200, yet no one touched this one:

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Because no one pointed it out here before I'd guess  :D

  


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:04 pm 
 

He just relisted it (he is a friend of mine, who is a huge first edition D&D geek).



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0375215458



I told him to add the 'make an offer' thing. :-)

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:33 pm 
 

Gus Landt wrote:He just relisted it (he is a friend of mine, who is a huge first edition D&D geek).


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I told him to add the 'make an offer' thing. :-)


I'd like to eventually pick one up, but not at that price. It seems to me that the dog is a bit wagged right now and I am willing to be patient enough to get one at a much lower price that what they are currently going for.


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:05 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:I'd like to eventually pick one up, but not at that price. It seems to me that the dog is a bit wagged right now and I am willing to be patient enough to get one at a much lower price that what they are currently going for.

What?  You're not going to Bclarkie-It-Now?  :)

Any wagers on the what the winning offer will be?

  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:54 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:Any wagers on the what the winning offer will be?


Just wondering ... if it is newly listed as a BIN, why only list it for 7 days when 30 is the same price?

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:21 pm 
 

Mars wrote:
Just wondering ... if it is newly listed as a BIN, why only list it for 7 days when 30 is the same price?


Doesn't make that much sense, but the seller probably did not expect it would last even 7 days at that BIN.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:30 pm 
 

I'd wager it doesn't make it past the weekend with the BIN set below $200.  As far as I know there hasn't been one of these up for under that price point in the last couple of weeks (since John Gaunt's closed anyway).

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:32 pm 
 

bclarkie wrote:I'd like to eventually pick one up, but not at that price. It seems to me that the dog is a bit wagged right now and I am willing to be patient enough to get one at a much lower price that what they are currently going for.


You know, I'm with BC on this one. I think everyone that wanted one at $200 has one now. I expect the price to settle a bit before coming to a stop...eventually $150 perhaps?

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:20 pm 
 

Badmike wrote:
You know, I'm with BC on this one. I think everyone that wanted one at $200 has one now. I expect the price to settle a bit before coming to a stop...eventually $150 perhaps?

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Depends entirely on print run, demand and the intestinal fortitude of the speculators who stocked up on them.  I honestly don't believe that there are enough of these around to meet the demand long term. But short term, even $150 seems unresonable for a set so newly produced and so available six months ago that they were being sold at a discount.

Long term, this set seems to me to be as close as we are ever likely to get to Castle Greyhawk. Gygax's hand was on this one. The history surrounding it, being yanked from TLG and turned over for what kind of rehashing with what kind of rule system. While Gygax's heirs would be fools not to publish some version of Castle Zagyg how will it ever be the same as this set written with a rules system so close to Gygax's own.

How many were made? A few thousand at most and many collectors will want two at least. An open copy to read and a copy to put away safely.

Short term prices like the ones we have seen are usually a bubble and I wouldn't be surprised to see them go for under $150 but I think anyone could sell them easily and in quantity for under $100.

A $100 sale on these is an incredible return in so short a time, but long term, say five years from now, I just have the feeling, $200+ easily.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:26 pm 
 

Arrgh... want to pull... the.. trigger...

Must resist, as I look on the shelf & see $40 sets.

Funny how the perception of value somehow... defines value...?

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:56 am 
 

How many were made? A few thousand at most


I can qualitatively state that figure is not accurate. Aim lower. I will not divulge the precise print run, but even 1k is too much.

As for why they were sold at discount, the answer is simple: Troll Lord Games was forced to get rid of available stock. They had some copies available for purchase at GenCon, and then had less than 4 months to sell out (or destroy) all remaining... so, rather than risk pulping everything, they tried to sell them, and that means "fire sale."

Soon, the box set will be very, very hard to find.

Of course, I do understand the reluctance to purchase at the increased price, especially if one were looking to play with it. That is the most dreadful shame, in my opinion, as this may end up being a "collector's item" and not something the "typical player" has... much like L3, for example.


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Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:31 am 
 

davidc wrote:Arrgh... want to pull... the.. trigger...

Must resist, as I look on the shelf & see $40 sets.

Funny how the perception of value somehow... defines value...?

:D

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Well, someone offered $135 and my friend accepted, so it is sold.

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:48 am 
 

Gus Landt wrote:Well, someone offered $135 and my friend accepted, so it is sold.


I reckon that has to be called cheap in the current market - though in fairness to your buddy, he has probably tripled his money by dint of very little effort. (Guess everyone's a winner).


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:35 pm 
 

Here's one for $180 BIN or Best Offer.




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Post Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:18 pm 
 

A CZ:UW, up for less than four hours, with 53 bids so far.   8O




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The zero-feedback bidder must really want this.   :roll:


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