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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:58 pm 
 

Just wanted to say that it seems I was wrong about the shrinkwrapping. It appears I may have misunderstood a statement and was then led to believe TLG does not shrinkwrap; it does now seem that the wrapping was done for the distributors, by TLG. Copies sold to individuals were not shrinkwrapped.

Sorry for the confusion, but I was very sure I knew what was happening. :(


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:32 pm 
 

serleran wrote:There are two printings of this [The East Mark]. The one released at GenCon 2007 which was autographed by Gary -- there is a finite number of these -- and the one sold to the general, non-attending, public after GenCon which are not signed.


Was the Gencon version sold unshrinked them to be signed?  Is there any other distinction between them?

I am just wondering if it was a different print or if it was the one print run and just a bunch of the were brought to Gencon and signed by Gary?

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:11 pm 
 

Mark:  the signed versions are signed and numbered (to 200 or 300, I don't recall which, offhand).  My understanding is that they're otherwise identical to the non-signed copies.


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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:24 pm 
 

Do you know if the GenCon version was shrinkwrapped?

I picked up a set of districts/adventures from a retail store and East Mark was the only one in shrink (which makes sense considering the format).

Also, any idea of which print of Dark Chateau is rarer (or size of print run?) - grey or brown?

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:16 am 
 

Mars wrote:Do you know if the GenCon version was shrinkwrapped?

I picked up a set of districts/adventures from a retail store and East Mark was the only one in shrink (which makes sense considering the format).

Also, any idea of which print of Dark Chateau is rarer (or size of print run?) - grey or brown?


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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:24 am 
 

Mars wrote:Was the Gencon version sold unshrinked them to be signed?  Is there any other distinction between them?

I am just wondering if it was a different print or if it was the one print run and just a bunch of the were brought to Gencon and signed by Gary?

I have both a signed and unsigned version of the East Mark Gazetteer.  My signed version has four map sheets and the unsigned has five map sheets.  The difference is that the Player Map and Castle Keeper's map is a double sided map in the signed version and two single sided maps in the unsigned version.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:44 am 
 

Excellent!  Thanks guys.

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Post Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:36 pm 
 

I have no idea about print runs on things (there are a few exceptions) -- I can guess, but that wouldn't really be too terribly precise. However, I believe the grey Dark Chateau was first -- it was supposed to match the Yggsburgh hardcover.


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:08 pm 
 

Overseas eBayer corcorellis has won my copy of CZ:UW for $202.47.

Also-ran bidders include melroseandvine and gruggreyskin.  I suppose that I should know who they are, but I do not.  I won't out anybody else.

Acaeum members did bid, but most of them dropped out early. Over 30 people were watching the auction in the hours before auction's end.  Only 12 unique bidders bid on this auction.

Neither the charity aspect nor the Free RPG Day module appear to have affected the final price.

  


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Post Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:36 pm 
 

Congratulations on a great finish for your auction John_Gaunt!

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:49 am 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:Overseas eBayer corcorellis has won my copy of CZ:UW for $202.47.



Wow, incredible.  This thing is really skyrocketing.  Now I feel like more of a dope than usual after deciding the $45 or so BIN on that set that was up a couple of months ago was too high.  And to think it sat there for several days!


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Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:39 am 
 

bombadil wrote:Wow, incredible.  This thing is really skyrocketing.  Now I feel like more of a dope than usual after deciding the $45 or so BIN on that set that was up a couple of months ago was too high.  And to think it sat there for several days!

How many "sure things" never increase significantly in value?  Buying CZ:UW at the end of 2008 was a risk.  It was available below SRP for a while, so a BIN at cover price did look expensive.

Jason Zavoda and others appear to be correct in their analyses of/reasoning behind buying and holding CZ:UW.  Maybe they should be discussing economic solutions in the OT thread.   :wink:

As soon as my Amazon copy sells or moves to eBay, I won't have a horse in the the CZ:UW race.  But I would enjoy seeing CZ:UW hit $299 at the end of 2009, perhaps coinciding with a 4E release from Gygax Games or reworked supplements from independent authors.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:30 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:How many "sure things" never increase significantly in value?  Buying CZ:UW at the end of 2008 was a risk.  It was available below SRP for a while, so a BIN at cover price did look expensive.

Jason Zavoda and others appear to be correct in their analyses of/reasoning behind buying and holding CZ:UW.  Maybe they should be discussing economic solutions in the OT thread.   :wink:

As soon as my Amazon copy sells or moves to eBay, I won't have a horse in the the CZ:UW race.  But I would enjoy seeing CZ:UW hit $299 at the end of 2009, perhaps coinciding with a 4E release from Gygax Games or reworked supplements from independent authors.


This kind of return is unpredictable. I buy things with 5 years in mind rather than 5 months. And sometimes knowing too much can keep you from investing. I managed a comic shop going on to 20 years ago, and I knew too much to invest in the Death of Superman comic. I could have picked up a 1000 copies wholesale (and our shops discount was 62% because of the volume we were buying from Diamond comics). But I knew that killing a comic character meant nothing, and the sales of superman were low. We had 7 regular subscribers to each of the Superman titles compared to over 100 for X-Men titles. After that issue and for the next 6 months we had 250+ subscribers to the superman and batman titles. We sold over 600+ copies of each issue the week it came out. Then of course all the speculation went BOOM! and the issue which had gone for $100 or more a copy was down to less than $7, then $5, then the comic market imploded.

What I did know was to sell while the other issues were high and dump them when the first signs of the bust started to show.

CZ: UW isnt going to bust and if the print run is truly low then the current price should be sustainable. Down the road I think this is a gaming grail and I cant see how it will be ever reprinted in this format. The owners of the rights are crazy not to get out another version as quickly as possible. I just think whatever comes out will be geared toward 4th edition and change the entire feel and content of the set.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:30 am 
 

$195.17



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0294964909



There is a BIN copy available at $199 (posted earlier), cheapest on Amazon was $249.  Did the others on Amazon (at $199) sell or get removed or raised in price?

  


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:24 am 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:$195.17


** expired eBay auction **


There is a BIN copy available at $199 (posted earlier), cheapest on Amazon was $249.  Did the others on Amazon (at $199) sell or get removed or raised in price?




I sold it for $149.99.  My was opened and had some wear on the box and a couple dings to the books. I purchased it new but wasn't very well packed when shipped. The box set was just put in a box with no packing so banged around in the shipping box on its way to me. It wasn't in shrink wrap either.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:24 am 
 

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Post Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:07 pm 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:$195.17


** expired eBay auction **

Good to see that it is still holding around $200 despite the economy, 4E, etc.

There is a BIN copy available at $199 (posted earlier), cheapest on Amazon was $249.  Did the others on Amazon (at $199) sell or get removed or raised in price?


One shrinkwrapped Amazon copy sold for $199.99 a few weeks back.



The shrinkwrapped copy currently on Amazon will fluctuate between $199.99 and $249.99 as my mood dictates.  :)  Or maybe I'll roll my four Zocchihedrons and determine a price.   :wink:

  

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:08 pm 
 

I was one SERIOUSLY lucky dude this week..

Was at the local FLGS, for a miniature gaming night, and happened to look over on a shelf next to the cash register.. and there was a copy of the Upper Works! Goggled a minute.. checked it out.

No shrink, one corner of the lid split. All contents fine. Price tag placed directly on box lid, of 39.95.

I asked how they had a copy.. unshrinked.. counter guy (son of owner, knowledgeable chap in most things) told me that a customer had returned it after getting it in the fall, and finally reading the thing.. and NOT liking it. he then offered to discount it by 10% more because of the box damage.

Um.. Thanks?

I bought it.

No intention of profiting by it.. this puppy is one that I have been searching for use!

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:33 pm 
 

I've picked up a few copies of the Castle Zagyg modules and was wondering if anyone else has noticed if there might be 2 prints for Town Halls?  I have one copy where the ink is considerably darker than the other.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:11 am 
 

I think this is a print error in the covers due to the awkward brown colouring. I have an EMG where the colour is considerably lighter than the others.


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