I'm persona non grata over there on account of some bits of paper I own with maps on.
I believe there was a double sided area map, the upper castle floor plans, and the dungeon levels. And then a booklet full of maps and illustrations.
serleran wrote:Try, no you're not, though you may not be well liked by certain individuals for a certain accusatory attitude displayed, myself not necessarily being one of them, but you ignore what I say in this thread anyway, so feel free to continue your erroneous assumptions.But, if it will make you feel better, the question has been asked.
Galadrin wrote:I believe there are 3 in the first run, 4 in the later boxes. The ones sold at GenCon have the two black and white (single-sided) Castle Zagyg area maps (one for above ground, one for below) and the double-sided Castle Zagyg environs map (featuring the Old Castle Track, with encounter numbers on one side for the DM). The later boxes featured these, and also a colour Castle Zagyg area map (just the below ground area, and none of the Store Room dungeon) which was included with the Mouths of Madness adventure found in the East Mark Gazetteer.
mbassoc2003 wrote:Yay! You're cool with me. Don't like to think I piss people off on here. It's a good community.As regards rumours, they fly around when it's hard to get accurate information. If the information that will quash rumours is made available quickly, rumours tend to die quickly. Unfortunately, the nature of a lot of 'business' is that it is not for public consumpion. That leads the rest of the world who believe they have an invested interest in things to speculate and postulate.Bottom line is transparency kills rumours but is no good for business, and the nature of the collector that frequents this forum is that we are fairly anal and meticulous about exploring every detail of the very origins of each product. Such is the nature of the obsessive D&D collector.A posted response from the TLG forum.The question this raises is, how does someone who bought a GenCon copy use the Mouths of Madness book if there's no map sheet? Or is the MoM mapsheet also duplicated on the BW storeroom mapsheet? I don't have access to a copy right now.
serleran wrote:I also found out how many copies of CZ:UW exist but have been asked to not divulge the figure, so I won't.
serleran wrote:Yes.
You, sir, are an evil man.
serleran wrote:Yes, yes I am. It's why I'm going to 'ell.
Grug Greyskin wrote:From the reviews, I believe Grodog got his from GenCon (based on his posts in this thread, but maybe he can confirm that),
mbassoc2003 wrote:Indeed it does.The content of the MoM 'brown' map appears on the storeroom level BW map, so the 'additional' MoM map is superfluous. And this would not be a good indicator of GenCon copies for the obvious reasons.
SoulCatcher78 wrote:The map included with the Gen Con copies was indeed cropped incorrectly (this does not impact its usability however). Does this make it one of those "I see Jesus on my bagel!!!" items?
SoulCatcher78 wrote:The color map included with the set is of the surrounding area but (to the best of my knowledge, I'll double check when I get home tonight) is only 1 sided.Sorry to stir the debate up but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't making an error in stating that the boxed set was complete.
