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Post Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:16 pm 
 

And just for reference here isTFM admission he lied about the ST1 from last year:

http://tomeoftreasures.com/forum/viewto ... =st1#12511

TFM wrote:There have been unintended controversies. My badge of honor is the ST1 I had listed awhile back. I have several of those with a couple of them being opposites of each other, one with nice cover and less than nice booklet and one with a nice booklet and not so nice cover. I put the less than with the less than and the nice with the nice. I had wanted to make a gift of the less than. There was somebody I knew who wanted one real bad but could never afford it. I was going to gift them the copy with the condition issues.

Well, you know how that turned out. It never occurred to me that trading components of the same item printed at the same time by the same people at the same location would be an issue. Selling game parts for the purpose of completing games with missing parts has been an industry standard for years. All of the game stores keep parts. I understand there's even a thread at that other site devoted to it. But the presumptions in the community always lean towards the nefarious. Anyway, I don't mind being the bad guy. It just makes me spend more money


Which of course is a complete and utter contradiction of his denials here:

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:48 pm 
 

I bet neither David nor Brian EVER forget anyones birthday - both youu guys seem to have memories that would make an elephant blink :D !

Seriously though - odd thread - TFM seems to have serious issues with the Acaeum. In my opinion (and only based on reading both forums, and not being a party to PM's and other cross member/forum chatter) TFM only has himself to blame. He was called (rightly) and didn't like it one bit. At that moment I'm afraid levels of respect MUST drop considerably. That would not necesarily have been the case if he had immediately have put his hands up. (The fact that ST1 was 1 printing blah blah blah is irrelevant - the lie was the issue here).

I genuinely believe that TFM could have come back here and regained some respect - again, this was his decision, though it is a shame that a serious collector is 'lost' to this forum.

FWIW, while TFM undoubtedly has one the high end $ collections in the world, I have far more respect for both David and Brian. Their input into these forums far exceeds most anyone else here, and such input does not necesarily require having the most vast of collections (Though I'm pretty sure David has more than a magazine box of odds and ends, and Brian has certainly had some decent kit over the years!)

Sometimes having the big bucks does not make you the best person (Gentleman, as an example I give you professional sportsmen!! :D )


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:01 am 
 

wizards + warfare us print $2 start is good  
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also decent c+s

dw #1-#24 :) :)  
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:29 am 
 

space opera ++  
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also old gw staff tshirt strange combo!!  
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:30 am 
 

Sorry to derail this thread further but ...

bclarkie wrote:Truthfully though, that's not really the point is it?


Actually that is the point.  I don't want to rehash the whole ST1 incident aside from saying that IMO it was something that got blown way out of proportion and was something that wasn't handled very well on either side of the dispute.  I personally don't believe that TFM started the auction with the intent of wrongdoing.  I also believe in giving second chances and also do give people respect when they contribute back to the hobby.  If you look through the old posts about the Jeff P auction, you will notice the big acknowledgement to TFM for his contribution - I think he also mentioned he was going to do this in the dispute thread.  So I don't think there is any doubt that the ST1 came from him.

On top of that, the whole "secret forum" is a bunch of crap too.


He is not referring to the VB forum but rather the one that Scott has for his buddies or those he deems worthy - yes the one that Mike Kuo was part of but then got kicked out of, then left etc, etc.  Again, this bit is really none of my business and not something that I am capable of debating (for lack of details) but the end result was that not only did it alienate Mike but others as well.   

He created ToT in a baltant attempt to divide the community and to secretly subvert Scott and the Acaeum. If there really is anything to this "divide", it was ToT forum that caused it, not the other way around.


From what I gather, the goal of ToT has always been to cover all RPGs or at least all the 3rd party D&D and generic fantasy items that the Acaeum has never had any serious intention of covering.  If anything its the Acaeum that is trying to squash ToT with the new Acaeum Wiki whose goal is what?  To do exactly what ToT is already doing.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:26 am 
 

t+t better wfs opened to bidding  
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:18 pm 
 

A little homebrew from the author, for those of you who collect such things. Sits nicely with Ben Burns (alas no paper copies anymore. He still sells PDFs though) and Kent Krumvieda (Loki's Wine is just fantastic for $9.00).



http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=010



Just waiting for my copy to arrive. I'll let you know what it's like when I get to read it (With UK postage over Xmas we're probably looking at sometime near the end of January  :roll: ).


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:47 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:A little homebrew from the author, for those of you who collect such things. Sits nicely with Ben Burns (alas no paper copies anymore. He still sells PDFs though) and Kent Krumvieda (Loki's Wine is just fantastic for $9.00).


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I don't understand the difference in price:



New Dungeon Module The Well Forgotten RPG adventure

$7.75


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New module The Well Forgotten D&D Dungeons & Dragons

The same, same seller, but for $11.70


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:08 pm 
 

Keith Baker (Eberron) selling Q-Workshop "Dragonmark" dice.  I have no idea what a Dragonmark is, but the dice are getting pricey:



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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:14 am 
 

lokiwookie wrote:
I don't understand the difference in price:

Same price when you factor in the shipping costs, just a little juggling with the figures.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:35 am 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:Same price when you factor in the shipping costs, just a little juggling with the figures.


One is little more expensive, even with shipping... It is not really honest I guess.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:06 pm 
 

I don't see any dishonest here. I might have missed something.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:45 pm 
 

mbassoc2003 wrote:I don't see any dishonest here. I might have missed something.


If he can send the one at $11.70 for only $4.75, he can for the one at $7.75. And I am sure that if I buy the one at 7.75 and I ask to ship it with first class mail ($4.75), he will say that it is not possible  :roll:

I always thought that seller have to charge exactly what actual shipping cost is, and not outrageous Handling fees (unless you are called Cougs :))
That's just my point of view.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:10 pm 
 

I don't know about the USA, but here in the UK we are allowed to charge 'reasonable' postage and packaging charges. Even in the USA I doubt eBay has the power to force sellers to provide free packaging or to get quotes from the postal service prior to listing items. So I can only imagine that both $7.75 and $4.25 fall within what can be considered 'reasonable' postage and packaging costs. The difference is that the seller has bundled the packaging and processing element into the cost of the goods in one, and left it in the cost of the postage and packaging in the other.

I recently listed an iPhone at £420 with free postage and packaging. It wouldn't sell. I drop the price to £400 and list the Postage and packaging at £20 and it sells within a couple of days. Both would have cost me the same time to process, the same postage, insurance and packing materials. The only difference is that in one I include the cost within the item offer price, and in the other I list it seperately. That's allowed in the UK, I assume eBay in the USA have not yet taken away US citizens costitutional rights. Give them time though and they'll be telling them whick postal service they must use, how much they have to discount the postage, that they're not allowed to insure packages unless they suffer the costs themselves, and if it doesn't arrive within five days they'll loose tboth the item and the refund to the buyer. That seems to be the way it's heading.

I say we should all follow the Oz policy of telling eBay to GTF.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:19 pm 
 

I've always thought that the 'reasonable' handling charge is ebays way out of any debate.Realistaically you can charge what you like, and no-one can really have any grounds for complaint.

Note the following though

High shipping will have an impact on your DSRs - though this is moot - didn't someone here give free shipping on everything and still not get 5 stars all the way (Badmike will probably remember this better than me).

As a seller I list my price for domestic and international shipping - which is generally a best guess - that way the buyer can make an informed decision from the outset.*

As a buyer - if the shipping isn't listed, don't assume it or guess it, get a quote. If you don't you have no cause for complaint.

Shipping goes hand in hand with feedback in the things that generally irritate people about ebay - the best answer is to not let it bother you too much :D .

* though the number of people that still ask :roll:  I pretty much ignore those questions I'm afraid - customer service is one thing, but I have a low 'stupid person' tolerance threshold :D


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:24 pm 
 

gyg wrote:I've always thought that the 'reasonable' handling charge is ebays way out of any debate.Realistaically you can charge what you like, and no-one can really have any grounds for complaint.

Note the following though

High shipping will have an impact on your DSRs - though this is moot - didn't someone here give free shipping on everything and still not get 5 stars all the way (Badmike will probably remember this better than me).

As a seller I list my price for domestic and international shipping - which is generally a best guess - that way the buyer can make an informed decision from the outset.*

As a buyer - if the shipping isn't listed, don't assume it or guess it, get a quote. If you don't you have no cause for complaint.

Shipping goes hand in hand with feedback in the things that generally irritate people about ebay - the best answer is to not let it bother you too much :D .

* though the number of people that still ask :roll:  I pretty much ignore those questions I'm afraid - customer service is one thing, but I have a low 'stupid person' tolerance threshold :D


Well I know I was offering Free Shipping through ebay and had a 4.8 DSR for shipping costs and now that I charge shipping I have a 4.8 DSR on shipping costs. Free shipping meant absolutely nothing as far as sales or DSRs.

But I expect reasonable shipping and handling, and decent service even if it isnt mentioned.

  

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:27 pm 
 

Getting shipping quotes assume you'll get a response before someone else wins it -- there was an auction in the UK where the guy said he would sell and ship to the USA, but would have to price quote it. This was a BIN auction. I asked what the shipping would be, and before I got an answer, someone else, who had not asked for the shipping quote went ahead and bought it. Jackass. Anyway, the point is that having to ask before you buy means you're opening yourself to a double Dutch love-fest, and if you don't ask, you're deliciously reamed by a kitty.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:30 pm 
 

JasonZavoda wrote:But I expect reasonable shipping and handling, and decent service even if it isnt mentioned.


I don't think that's a matter for debate - we all like decent service, and I feel I give my moneys worth.

The problem is that even if you pay (very) high shipping, decent service is not guaranteed. and I don't think any of us would assume this to be the case.

(BTW - I've never had a parcel from anyone here that wasn't bomb proof - though in return I certainly give shipping breaks to Acaeum members)


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