Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:reply says aged. pretty bad if that ^^
Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:is bidding for same reason as high prices on nkg in order to increase resale value of his collection while is getting out. if want to win have to dance to his tune. might not be fair but nothing unusual has not sold anything to nkg of courseif can drive prices high enough gets to keep spares for free i guess
Kingofpain89 wrote:Screw 'em then. If that truly is his strategy he can have them all and then they won't be worth dick. Seems to me it would just be easier to shill his own auctions. Ebay makes it pretty easy to do that nowadays. Oh but that would be wrong now wouldnt it?
Badmike wrote:Well, he's not shilling his auctions, but since he's not actually selling anything, the effect is the same....he's using ebay as a price gauge so he can know what to charge NKG (or know what NKG should charge if he is selling them on commission...same differene). Probably will buy these, then turn around an put them in separate lots with sky-high reserves, get a handle on a price, and then sell them to NKG.
Badmike wrote:My advice would be for anyone here to simply NOT bid on his stuff....you have no chance of winning (he's not really selling them anyway, only seeing what the interest is), and you are only helping him raise his asking price with NKG.
Badmike wrote:so, concievably, you could pay your ENTIRE trip to gencon, AND buy a Ghost Tower or POTVQ, for the price NKG is charging. Personally, I'd rather have the trip to Gencon.....
Badmike wrote:Honestly, is there ANYONE out there now but the usual suspects paying dick for these at this point????? What's that say about the hobby when the same five people are at this point selling rares to each other like some retard's circle jerk????
Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:guess that is another way to keep inflating prices + make seem is investors dream
TFM wrote:Besides the scope and content, site administration is perhaps the biggest difference. Site administration at the Acaeum is near-impotent, and that fact alone has caused a tremendous amount of bad feelings throughout the rpg collecting community. There have been death threats over there. The last time I saw the forums a few years ago the 'hate Whitfield thread' was almost up to 100 pages. Imagine that! A 100 pages of hate! How in the world does that advance the community? All of that energy that could have been used to create something is wasted instead. Almost every collector has been a target of unrestrained scorn at some point. The forums have degenerated into a stage with the actors jockeying for time. On top of that there's a private forum where the anointed dish on the rest, reminiscent of the Coliseum. It's really too bad, especially since the best moment in our community occurred there. When DSIII was dying, everyone came together. It looked like the beginning of something special. It wasn't. If you need D&D print info, it's still the place to go for the time being, and the work Shane has done with Judges Guild is simply the best. Our forums are not free-for-alls, and anyone who goes down that road will be banned. Amazingly, there is energy and goodwill still left in the community, enough to really do something. That's why I'm here. It's important for new collectors to have a place to go where they can ask questions in a productive environment. Our hobby is in danger of dying. When the people collecting now give it up in ten years, who will carry the torch forward? We have to inspire new people into the hobby or there will be no hobby. The Tome is structured to meet that challenge. We have to try.
bclarkie wrote:I just find it f**king hysterical how Kynan is always pissing an moaning about the state of the hobby and how it has some great divide in it and hwo he is sick and tired of the same people buying everything. Yet right now, he keeps running these auctions with ridiculous reserves, he is doing his best to bid things up and jack up the prices. Yeah, thats really how to promote the hobby. Combine all that with the fact that he was the one who got mad and took his ball home for being correctly called out for lying in his auction description only to vehimently deny it several times on here. Only then a couple years later to come out over on ToT that he actually did lie both in the auction and on here and the did in fact Frankenstein that ST1.Then of course there was this little rant a few months ago:http://tomeoftreasures.com/forum/viewto ... obby#15905Which apprently he failed to realize that he was doing the exact same thing on HIS forum that he was bitching about that goes on here. At least he isn't like a huge hypocrite or anything.
Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:aaron still fine in general in my book but did not know multiple copies + is not researching actual sale prices. had no idea $2000-2500 was rate for good 1st woodgrain not $4000+
Mars wrote:Even with knowing the going rate for these, I'm not sure that Aaron would set a price much lower. A lot of his prices seem seem to have moved into the higher range (much higher than they would sell for on Ebay).It seems like even a number of the small press items has started to get priced into the way high range. Here is a good example:Expoiting Space by Gryphonn Graphics (1980)This price (IMHO) is completely insane. Not so long ago I had 2 copies of this and I gave one away for FREE. Sure its rare and small press but its appeal is to a very limited group.
Badmike wrote:There is a huge difference between "rare", "collectible", and "valuable", and sometimes dealers/resellers (myself included) get these mixed up.
Mars wrote:For sure. I am with you on all of these. The small press market is similar to the high priced rares market - when a couple of the usuals don't bid or miss the auction, it goes much cheaper. A small press item can have a huge swing in price year to year.Another good example: Dave Casciano's Book of Dragons (1977) is a rarer small press item that probably hit a peak around $100 or so (probably the copy I bought from Bclarkie a while back). This year I have seen two copies that ended in the $25-$30 range. Here's the latest one: ** expired/removed eBay auction **
Mars wrote:This book seems like it should have everything going for it: fantasy genre, rare (small press, I have only seen 4 or 5 copies), etc.
Mars wrote:On another note, quality of the item often doesn't play much of a role either.
Badmike wrote:Second, while a great resource, going to TOT is about as exciting as watching paint dry. I can only stomach a trip once a month or so, as that's about how often the threads update with posts. It's not exactly a dynamic community, unless you're one of the 10 people in the world with the means to update the info (due to the extensiveness of your collection and knowledge....this isn't a rip, seriously, even I'm intimidated going there because I don't have the chops to add anything). In contrast, although it's slowed down lately, the Acaeum is generally a friendly place and a great source of info.
bclarkie wrote:Combine all that with the fact that he was the one who got mad and took his ball home for being correctly called out for lying in his auction description only to vehimently deny it several times on here. Only then a couple years later to come out over on ToT that he actually did lie both in the auction and on here and the did in fact Frankenstein that ST1.
Rakeesh sah Tarna wrote:none at $25-30 unless missed one?? three copies one did not sell as was tfm + had $100+ reserve other was with ** expired/removed eBay auction ** dradons ^^
too much obsession is spent on $$
Mars wrote:Just as an aside, what happened with that ST1? Wasn't it donated to the charity auction for Jeff Perren?
Mars wrote:I do want to make a few comments on the ToT and TFM bashing too.