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Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:55 am 
 

OK, I finally had the chance to play CE at DunDraCon today, and had a blast!  Tadashi, Larry DiTillio, and the 3-3 other guys at the table played 5 games in a row in the afternoon.  We lucked into the game, since they were playing in Open Gaming.  The game was great.  I'm totally sold.

Duke, IIRC, you're the CE expert here.  Advice on editions, and which expansions to pick up would be most appreciated!  :D


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Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:11 am 
 

grodog wrote:Duke, IIRC, you're the CE expert here.  Advice on editions, and which expansions to pick up would be most appreciated!  :D


Well, "expert" might be a bit strong, but I appreciate the sentiment.  :)



For crunchy old-school goodness, you can't go wrong with the original Eon edition(s). The base set had three major printings, all of which came with 15 basic aliens. The cover art is the easiest way to pick out editions:



"Alien landscape" painting, 1977 ... Oracle painting (the alien with octopus arms), 1978 ... the "deep box," 1982.



The deep box is a favorite among many collectors, as it allows for later storage of expansions.



Speaking of expansions ...



*#4 and #8 are the most collectible and fetch the highest prices. These were the two that added the flare cards;



*#9 (the final expansion) is also considered a good find. It included a revised rulebook (a God-send at the time, as the rules had become a tangled mess);



*#'s 1, 2, and 3 are the easiest to get. They just added extra aliens. These can often be found still sealed;



*#5 added moons and #6 added lucre (think "gold pieces"). Many players are not big fans of one or the other (or both), so these are also pretty easy to find.



*#7 also added aliens, and most are classics. This one is more difficult to locate.



The license then went to West End Games and Games Workshop, both of whom published one edition. Neither is considered very collectible. The West End version, in fact, is just the Eon version with new art.



In the early 90s, the license went to Mayfair Games ... and things get interesting again. The Mayfair base set is considered highly collectible, especially if it is still in the shrinkwrap. Prices north of $100 are typical; prices north of $200 have been seen.



Here's one right now at $75, even with missing pieces:




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This shrinkwrapped copy went for $230:




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Clearly, the print run was too small for this edition. Mayfair followed up with an expansion called More Cosmic Encounter, but don't be fooled: the print run was way too high for this one. It's easily found for $20 to $30.



Avalon Hill got the license in 2000 and basically did nothing with it. Their base set contained 20 aliens and rumors of expansions turned out to be just that. You can trip over these versions in the street; I saw Amazon offloading them for like $15 last year ... and they've gone for less on eBay.



The big news for CE fans is that Fantasy Flight Games will be republishing the game this fall. I actually broke the news on my blog (I speak with CE designer Peter Olotka about once per week):



http://ce.typepad.com/cosmic/2007/08/ff ... ms-co.html



The game is expected this fall ... and it is expected to rock hard!   :)



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One fan's advice: look for the Eon deep box in good condition, pick up the first three expansions to add aliens, and keep your eyes peeled for either of the flare expansions. That's a pretty good way to begin; everything after that is gravy. And hold back about $50 to pick up the new version in the fall. Woot!

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:08 am 
 

and youre not an expert eh?  :roll:

pretty good detail if you ask me - i would certainly advocate expert status here :)

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:16 am 
 

Xaxaxe wrote:The big news for CE fans is that Fantasy Flight Games will be republishing the game this fall. I actually broke the news on my blog (I speak with CE designer Peter Olotka about once per week):

Then there is a good possibility Cosmic Encounter will get an Italian edition too! Great news! I'm crossing my fingers...[/i]

  


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:35 am 
 

I'll see what info I can dig up from friends @ FFG about their edition.


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Post Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:45 pm 
 

No info forthcoming from FFG, you know anything more Duke?



Also noticed this lot today:  
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Post Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:59 am 
 

grodog wrote:No info forthcoming from FFG, you know anything more Duke?

Yeah, it's all looking good and on track for a fall release. I had a lengthy conversation last night with Kevin Wilson (lead designer), in fact, and he seems ready to make CE his primary project for the next few weeks. I got the impression he finally cleared some other projects off his to-do list. He's working very closely with Peter Olotka on the new edition, too, which is good to hear.

The new CE is going to rock ... and it's going to rock hard. I know of a few details that, normally, I'd just shout out to everyone, but I've agreed to keep a lid on things until Kevin is farther along in the process. But I can tell you that I've liked what I've seen so far ... and that's coming from a big CE snob.  :)

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Post Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:19 pm 
 

Excellent news, thanks Duke! :D


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:06 pm 
 

Boo!  :)

Fantasy Flight posted the rulebook today, which means the game is at their warehouse and ready to be shipped. Woot!

http://new.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_ ... p?eidn=246

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:00 pm 
 

I only stumbled onto this game in their online version, and it was fun.  I'd love to get the full game.  It seems like a blast!


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Post Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:14 pm 
 

Kersus wrote:I only stumbled onto this game in their online version, and it was fun.  I'd love to get the full game.  It seems like a blast!


Get ready to pay. They don't come cheap.


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:44 pm 
 

Hey Duke:  any word on expansion updates for CE from FFG, in terms of what they're going to republish---or even, dare I say it, create new stuff?


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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:55 pm 
 

No official announcements yet, but developer Kevin Wilson has openly discussed the first expansion on at least one site, so it's like the worst-kept secret ever. No firm date yet, but I'd guess fall or Xmas season.

A hazard deck will be in there for sure (hazards are even mentioned in the new rulebook as a "future feature"). This will be something similar to having to draw a card before taking a second encounter, then carrying out the effects of the card. So maybe you'd get a card that doubled the defenders' total or one that makes you attack a different planet; stuff like that.

Other safe bets: new aliens (probably no more than 20), and pieces for a sixth player (which KW has also discussed openly).

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Post Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:43 pm 
 

So how is the FFG version, particularly compared to the others?

I know I'm going to get a version before long, it's just a question of which one I should target.

  


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Post Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 2:42 pm 
 

Component- and graphics-wise, it's by far the most attractive version of the game ever made. It's in its own league, actually.

Rules-wise, it's essentially a tightening up of the Avalon Hill rulebook, with some additions. It's still the "same" Cosmic under the hood; anyone who has ever played would feel right at home with the rules.

Support-wise, it's going to be the best version yet. FFG supports its games very well, especially in terms of the web. And I expect many expansions to follow, perhaps as many as five.

So, my final answer:

For playing, you can't beat the new Fantasy Flight edition

For collecting, you can't beat the super-cool Eon editions from the late '70s and early '80s.

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