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Post Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:47 pm 
 

:D  Yeah. I meant DCC#51.  :oops:
The DCC C9 with the EO cover is worth it for the cover alone. It will stand up to the test of time and already sells for more than cover price. IMO, a copy with only the GG logo will be worth more, but for collectors, this is a good solid investment. Not likely to depreciate, but likely to hit a plateau at around $50 long term I think.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:02 am 
 

Just posting since I know you guys are fans of old-school art...I thought some of you may be interested in this podcast I recorded with Erol Otus, Jeff Easley, and Stefan Pogue, on old-school art in general and the Dungeon Alphabet in particular:

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:22 am 
 

Thanks Joesph!

I'm listening right now... I kinda wish it was just an Erol interview...

I'm also noticing right away there are some factual errors. (1972?, "steve" sutherland?)

The interviewer and Otus  both hit the nail on the head... the first wave of artists were embroiled in the game and fans of the company or had been part of it's early development.


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Post Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:57 am 
 

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Post Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:35 am 
 

I think I may have asked this before, but I can't find the thread answer if I did...  :oops:

I've just received a DCC Saga boxset and have just started to have a read through, albeit very briefly.

I wondered, is it easy/reasonable to convert the player and monster stats back to 1st ed? I have no other d20 items, so have no point of reference with regards what any player stats may mean.

thanks in advance for re-answering this, if I've asked before...


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Post Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:50 am 
 

actually, I'm getting to grips with it and I'm sure the Rules Compendium I have on its way soon (cheers Mbass) should iron out the questions! :D


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:58 am 
 

For those who are interested, we have posted a special pre-order offer on The Dungeon Alphabet. Pre-order the print copy of The Dungeon Alphabet at your local game store or the Goodman Games online store and be entered into a drawing to win a collector's copy autographed by cover artist Erol Otus! Download the pre-order form now from http://www.goodman-games.com/4385preview.html . The Dungeon Alphabet is now at the printer, on track for a January release date.


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:38 am 
 

wow, the gazetteer really has dropped in price....now is a good time to pick some up...this is a fine product...



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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:48 pm 
 

carrejo wrote:wow, the gazetteer really has dropped in price....now is a good time to pick some up...this is a fine product...


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When Goodman had it's 1/2 price sale it was $49.99 or something like that, and if you included that along with $50.01 of other merchandise, the shipping was free (which is exactly what I did).  It really helped finish out my collection.  I am SO glad I hopped on that. 8)


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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:36 pm 
 

Wasn't Gazetteer of the Known Realms $35 or something close originally?  I don't recall spending anything crazy for it.  Now the Castle Whiterock was $99.99 and that I waited till it came on Ebay for cheap.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:46 pm 
 

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When Goodman had it's 1/2 price sale it was $49.99 or something like that, and if you included that along with $50.01 of other merchandise, the shipping was free (which is exactly what I did).  It really helped finish out my collection.  I am SO glad I hopped on that. 8)


yeah, I did as well, it was such a great buy, what I meant was after that, the gazetteer became hard to come by, and was selling in the 100+ range for a while on ebay, or at least thats what I remembered.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:08 pm 
 

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yeah, I did as well, it was such a great buy, what I meant was after that, the gazetteer became hard to come by, and was selling in the 100+ range for a while on ebay, or at least thats what I remembered.


If I recall, some lady sold a lot of them back to back to back to back etc.  I mean like a dozen or even more over several months (maybe a year ago?).  During that time, the eBay market price dropped from over $100 down to around $40 or $50.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:14 pm 
 

Plaag wrote:Wasn't Gazetteer of the Known Realms $35 or something close originally?  I don't recall spending anything crazy for it.  Now the Castle Whiterock was $99.99 and that I waited till it came on Ebay for cheap.

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I believe the Gazetteer was originally $69, maybe it was $35 during the half price sale. It sold out quick enough.

The last one I had up for sale a few months ago went almost instantly at $100

These will probably continue to go for $100+ but bargains do crop up. That being said it is a setting with only two adventures included rather than a massive boxed adventure. The DCC setting seems relatively unimportant when using the DCC line of adventures and I haven't gone through it yet so I can't be a judge on the quality.

I just see this set more as a collectable rather than an end use kind of item and that may limit its value down the road.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:16 pm 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:If I recall, some lady sold a lot of them back to back to back to back etc.  I mean like a dozen or even more over several months (maybe a year ago?).  During that time, the eBay market price dropped from over $100 down to around $40 or $50.

I think that that was historygal2 or somebody similar.  She ran out of them earlier this year (early to mid-2009).

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:17 pm 
 

Grug Greyskin wrote:
If I recall, some lady sold a lot of them back to back to back to back etc.  I mean like a dozen or even more over several months (maybe a year ago?).  During that time, the eBay market price dropped from over $100 down to around $40 or $50.


She had about 12 and some were opened and damaged, and perhaps the last one was incomplete (I seem to remember). I think the first 8 went for over $100. I believe they were shrinkwrapped copies/

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:17 pm 
 

JohnGaunt wrote:I think that that was historygal2 or somebody similar.  She ran out of them earlier this year (early to mid-2009).


That is the seller I was referring to.

  

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:34 pm 
 

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I believe the Gazetteer was originally $69, maybe it was $35 during the half price sale. It sold out quick enough.

The last one I had up for sale a few months ago went almost instantly at $100

These will probably continue to go for $100+ but bargains do crop up. That being said it is a setting with only two adventures included rather than a massive boxed adventure. The DCC setting seems relatively unimportant when using the DCC line of adventures and I haven't gone through it yet so I can't be a judge on the quality.

I just see this set more as a collectable rather than an end use kind of item and that may limit its value down the road.


Yeah, I got mixed up with Castle Whiterock.  I just know I mostly paid half price or better on my DCC collection. :oops:


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:04 am 
 

benjoshua wrote:
Yeah, I got mixed up with Castle Whiterock.  I just know I mostly paid half price or better on my DCC collection. :oops:


Yeah, I started collecting when the halfprice sales were going but missed dcc #35 and paid full price for it + shipping. Noble Knight still seems to be unloading a number of the modules as sets for a bargain price but some are getting hard to find.

I know I still need the boxed set with minis of #30 (?) and module 3.5

  

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JasonZavoda wrote:
Yeah, I started collecting when the halfprice sales were going but missed dcc #35 and paid full price for it + shipping. Noble Knight still seems to be unloading a number of the modules as sets for a bargain price but some are getting hard to find.

I know I still need the boxed set with minis of #30 (?) and module 3.5


I've got #30 but without the minis and I'm missing 3.5 and one more, but I'm not going after any of them, especially 3.5 anytime soon.  The last copy that I know of sold for $331.76.  That may be a fair price, but I don't like to buy stuff which is that valuable. 8)


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:03 am 
 

Interesting post from Joe Goodman on the Goodman Games site:

Hi everyone,

It's a new year with some new ideas! I've been thinking over a new approach with the DCC line and wanted to get some feedback. Think for a moment about the RPG market over the last few years:

2001-2004: 80%+ of RPG'ers were playing 3E.
2004-2005: Some gamers fell off between 3E and 3.5, but still 75% playing 3.5.
2005-2007: D20 variants multiply. Mutants & Masterminds, Iron Heroes, Arcana Evolved, Castles & Crusades, Conan, others. Most of the market is playing some version of 3E, but it's no longer all D&D. Various d20 publishers begin to release their own stand-alone RPG's (e.g., Runequest).
2008: Most, but not all, of the RPG market converts to 4E. Market is now split between 4E and many varieties of 3E holdouts. Other systems proliferate, including Hackmaster Basic and the 1E retro-clones. "Old-school" goes mainstream. Goodman Games remains the only "d20 company" still primarily supporting WotC D&D.
2009: Pathfinder releases. Fantasy RPG market is now split between 4E and Pathfinder, with another big chunk split to the other stand-alone RPG's (Castles & Crusades, Runequest, Fantasycraft, upcoming Dragon Age, etc.), and another chunk shopping online in the retro-clone market (which I personally have a fondness for).
2010: What's a module publisher to do?

My primary love remains adventures, but the market is so fragmented that the customers who played DCC modules in 2004 are now playing 6 different systems.

Here's something I've been thinking about. What if a DCC were written in "native 4E" but there were downloads to support other systems? Or...what if the DCC had generic stats ("Orc, 6 hp, axe, chainmail")...and ALL detailed stats were available as a download? So if you play 4E you download the 4E stats PDF...if you play Pathfinder you download the Pathfinder stats PDF...etc.

Tell me what you think. There are certain economics required in publishing modules, but as long as those economics are met by satisfying one or two larger systems, it may be possible to support more than one system.

And as a final side note, tell me what you think of Dungeon Alphabet. This is the book I spent a year working on as a side project, just to stay in touch with my inner grognard. If there's still a market for old-school imagery -- as evidenced by sales on Dungeon Alphabet -- this remains another option for the DCC line or other projects.

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Lots of interesting stuff.  Is this a sign that Goodman is perhaps going to start supporting the old school gaming community again?

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