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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:01 pm 
 

I've just won a copy of Machine Tractor Station Kharkov-37 on Ebay. It's dated 2004 and looks for all the world like a fairly decent photocopy bound with tape. It has a card cover, print quality is awful - very like a toner job. Is this how these earlier Monographs were put together or have I just been had?

  


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:07 pm 
 

You're lucky- the 2003 Monographs were embossed on the sole of Sandy Petersen's shoe. If you purchased one, he would visit your home to kick you in the head until the words were impressed upon your bleeding flesh. All in all, I'd rather have the photocopies.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:15 pm 
 

It does sound like a Chaosium monograph.


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:26 pm 
 

Outrageous, this thing went for $20 "new". Better read it then I suppose, so I can convince myself content trumps presentation.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:47 pm 
 

The monographs are all print on demand books with tape bindings, which means they likely had them printed, at least initially, at Kinkos.  While I've not purchased any further monographs, I did get the Basic RolePlaying series.  I knew what I was getting when I purchased them, so I wasn't disappointed at the lack of illustrations inside.  The only reason I did purchase them was to ensure that Deluxe Basic Role Playing (an oxymoron?) saw the light of day.  It will...maybe.



  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:12 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote:You're lucky- the 2003 Monographs were embossed on the sole of Sandy Petersen's shoe. If you purchased one, he would visit your home to kick you in the head until the words were impressed upon your bleeding flesh. All in all, I'd rather have the photocopies.


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Traveller wrote:The monographs are all print on demand books with tape bindings, which means they likely had them printed, at least initially, at Kinkos.  While I've not purchased any further monographs, I did get the Basic RolePlaying series.  I knew what I was getting when I purchased them, so I wasn't disappointed at the lack of illustrations inside.  The only reason I did purchase them was to ensure that Deluxe Basic Role Playing (an oxymoron?) saw the light of day.  It will...maybe.


That explains the cost. The later monographs are a lot slicker, cover-wise at least, this is what I'd got used to so the earlier one came as a bit of a shock. At least I didn't buy a photocopy of a photocopy, mine's an original photocopy :-)

  


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:47 pm 
 

megnelwil wrote:I've just won a copy of Machine Tractor Station Kharkov-37 on Ebay. It's dated 2004 and looks for all the world like a fairly decent photocopy bound with tape. It has a card cover, print quality is awful - very like a toner job. Is this how these earlier Monographs were put together or have I just been had?


Sounds like my early monographs.

I've been meaning to pick up a copy of that one at some point.  Let me know how the content is.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:40 pm 
 

The new ones are much nicer perfectbound printings, but the old ones looked like something you could put together at home with a $100 laserprinter and a roll of electrical tape.  :P


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Post Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:25 pm 
 

I was thinking hockey tape, but I suppose they might have splurged and gone with electrical. :lol:

  


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:04 pm 
 

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I really starting to think he is actually this guy:

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:09 pm 
 

sauromatian wrote:You're lucky- the 2003 Monographs were embossed on the sole of Sandy Petersen's shoe. If you purchased one, he would visit your home to kick you in the head until the words were impressed upon your bleeding flesh. All in all, I'd rather have the photocopies.


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too true.  reports are that the most recent productions have improved somewhat. but still expect typos, editing errors, limited illustrations.  adventure content is what you are buying.  back to the old school  :D


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:33 pm 
 

red_bus wrote:too true.  reports are that the most recent productions have improved somewhat. but still expect typos, editing errors, limited illustrations.  adventure content is what you are buying.  back to the old school  :D


Hmmm...yup...that sounds a bit like my monograph (Undying Leaders), light on illustrations, self-edited (Chaosium provides no editing for monographs) but light on typos. As I was growing up going through school, my work had to be virtually error free since my mother was a professional proof reader for the local newspaper and was somewhat critical if I erred.

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:48 pm 
 

They provide the cover art though, do they not?


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:21 pm 
 

g026r wrote:They provide the cover art though, do they not?


Yes, but the author(s) have the option of providing their own black & white cover art. I was not aware of that when I submitted Undying Leaders or I would have tried to get somebody locally to put something together for me.


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Post Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:46 pm 
 

What I find hugely encouraging about Chaosium's experiment with monographs is that they seem very popular, despite their relative lack of graphic and production quality (that is, compared to some of the lush material which is on the market, and not intended any way to denigrate the efforts of the many authors).  While no sales figures are available, Chaosium seem happy to produce and sell them, which indicates that they are selling direct in enough volume.  Further, their very recent appearance on ebay has resulted in, thus far, solid resale prices.  This is some evidence that people are keen to buy new material not on gloss but on imaginative and innovative content.  Which is of course just like the D&D we celebrate here.  :D  :D  :D


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Post Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:13 pm 
 

red_bus wrote:What I find hugely encouraging about Chaosium's experiment with monographs is that they seem very popular, despite their relative lack of graphic and production quality (that is, compared to some of the lush material which is on the market, and not intended any way to denigrate the efforts of the many authors).  While no sales figures are available, Chaosium seem happy to produce and sell them, which indicates that they are selling direct in enough volume.  Further, their very recent appearance on ebay has resulted in, thus far, solid resale prices.  This is some evidence that people are keen to buy new material not on gloss but on imaginative and innovative content.  Which is of course just like the D&D we celebrate here.  :D  :D  :D


Indeed.  I think the monographs are the most interesting thing about Chaosium.


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Post Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:02 pm 
 

red_bus wrote:What I find hugely encouraging about Chaosium's experiment with monographs is that they seem very popular, despite their relative lack of graphic and production quality (that is, compared to some of the lush material which is on the market, and not intended any way to denigrate the efforts of the many authors).  While no sales figures are available, Chaosium seem happy to produce and sell them, which indicates that they are selling direct in enough volume.  Further, their very recent appearance on ebay has resulted in, thus far, solid resale prices.  This is some evidence that people are keen to buy new material not on gloss but on imaginative and innovative content.  Which is of course just like the D&D we celebrate here.  :D  :D  :D

I agree. I must say that a couple of their monographs managed to entertain my group for almost a year: I especially liked the End Times one  :D

  

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:41 pm 
 

Although there is no actual numbers available for the volume of the monograph sales, there are a few clues from watching the web site.

For example, one of the releases from this year called Primal State had sold out its initial print run and is now back in stock.

The agreement with the authors is payment for an initial printing of 500 copies, and if reprinted the author gets paid again for the second printing. Since Primal State went into a second printing, it appears that they sold at least 500 copies of just that one monograph.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:47 pm 
 


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Whatever the print run, they seem to be popular :-)

  
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