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Post Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 4:30 pm 
 

From what I read of my copy, it is a D&D variation. Don't have my copy anymore, alas.


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Post Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:29 am 
 

My brother mentioned this discussion so I decided to check it out.  I am one of those rare creatures who has played BMG.  I first encountered it at KU in Lawrence, KS, shortly after publication.  I played in several campaigns, and took the game with me to California in 1986.  I have since run several extended campaigns based on BMG - with a lot of modification and expansion, since it is medieval-themed, and I ran Oriental and swashbuckling games.
I lost my original copy in the Northridge earthquake in LA, but still have a photocopy set I used as a GM to save wear and tear on the flimsy original.  That plus a lot of expansion material I developed for different campaign genres.  If Bill does manage to set up a new edition, I would be happy to send him all the modifications and additions friends (including mutual acquaintances from Lawrence) and I have made for his perusal.
The things I most liked (and still do) about the game were the magic system and combat system.  They allowed much more creative play than a lot of other systems I have tried since.

  

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:14 am 
 

Kai Lung, i sent you a PM  :D

  

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Post Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:28 pm 
 

Bill Underwood (creator of the "Beasts men & gods") RPG has contacted me today saying that he is considering printing on demand (POD) of his PDF copy of the game! :D

  


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Post Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:08 pm 
 

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You are optimistic :)

Considering the number of people having the game, and who know that they still have it, I am not sure that at least 3 persons are playing to this game...[/quote]

I played my house rule variation of BMG last week. Fun to start teaching my sons a game I first played 30 years ago.

  


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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:07 pm 
 

Sorry for the LONG delay in this thread and thank you to Vault Keeper for the encouragement at getting a version of this reprinted. I am going to do a print on demand version soon. Probably within the next few weeks. The rules will be almost exactly the same ones published in the 2nd Edition published in 1982. The layout is different, but I tried to keep it looking the same as the original. More news to follow.

  

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:21 pm 
 

underdog wrote:Sorry for the LONG delay in this thread and thank you to Vault Keeper for the encouragement at getting a version of this reprinted. I am going to do a print on demand version soon. Probably within the next few weeks. The rules will be almost exactly the same ones published in the 2nd Edition published in 1982. The layout is different, but I tried to keep it looking the same as the original. More news to follow.


I have not posted to this topic before, as the original item was simply too pricey for me to chase and I (like some others) wont even bother chasing down electronic copies.

This however, is VERY HAPPY NEWS for us more monetarily challeneged collectors!
I will eagerly await further news and I would stand in line for the POD copies to surface!


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:37 am 
 

Agreed, I will be good for 1+ copies POD!


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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:08 am 
 

Thanks Bill, that's amazing!

i'm very happy, you know that many persons are already willing to buy and read BM&G!

(i'm going to reply to you in private today)

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:35 am 
 

For anyone who doesn't know about BM&G yet, here there is an old review of the game in question, so you can judge by yourself if it is worth buying the POD or not in the near future:

http://addsecondaedizione.blogspot.com/2011/03/petition-for-lost-fantasy-rpg.html

  


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:35 pm 
 

I just got my "proof" copy from Lulu.com. Since then I have been refining the text and making small changes to the cover so that the text will fit better. I am including a sample of the cover here.

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I was surprised. I think that the proof looks GOOD. Man! I wish I had had print on demand back in 1980! This version is very much like the original (2nd edition) in many ways. "Avernus Dis" sent me a Microsoft Publisher version of the book that he'd scanned in back in 2008, and I found that file and I have been working with it, fixing the remaining OCR errors, changing the margins on the layout to fix the printer (such as having a 0.75" gutter in the middle of the book for the binding), but I left the original text intact (with some changes to fit the new layout) and the original artwork is there too.

Anyway, it will probably still be a while before I am ready to sell this, but I think I am getting close. Does anyone have any suggestions about what I should charge for copies? I would probably be interested in selling signed copies, and I am going to limit the number in this addition. If there's any interest, I will revive my plans someday for a later set of rules, but this set I won't sell again.

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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:55 pm 
 

Looks GREAT!
I can hardly wait.
Something to look forward to for the near future.
Thank you for doing this!


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Post Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:11 pm 
 

Probably if you can sell 25 copies on Lulu you are probably doing well so price it accordingly.

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:27 pm 
 

Will it be possible to get this in hardback? I may have to break my moratorium on Lulu and PoD in that case.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:38 pm 
 

I don't have a problem with a hardback version. I wasn't planning on it, but I don't think it is any more trouble (or not much) to do a hardback cover and price it accordingly. I am still waiting on my 2nd proof set, this one from CreateSpace.com, which is going to be better in terms of layout and much fewer typos, but I am going to have to read through it and make at least one more revision before I am ready to sell anything. This will probably take at least another couple of weeks.

  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:03 pm 
 

I'd welcome a PDF copy if you sell one. With Lulu, if you offer PDF, you need to remember to add the covers, because normally you upload the covers seperately for the print-on-demand process, and some people then figure people buying PDFs shouldn't get covers.


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:08 pm 
 

I still haven't decided on the PDF version. I know I could watermark the pages. I am, however, thinking about converting it to Kindle, Nook, and other e-book formats. I'm not sure when but probably will. Does anyone have opinions on that?

  

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:19 pm 
 

underdog wrote:I still haven't decided on the PDF version. I know I could watermark the pages. I am, however, thinking about converting it to Kindle, Nook, and other e-book formats. I'm not sure when but probably will. Does anyone have opinions on that?


Since I have a kindle, then, Hell yeah, I vote for a kindle conversion, but I have no idea what that entails.


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