Badmike wrote:Anyone have anything to add after nearly six years???

Only that the thread is a good example of nostalgia's effects. In 2007 & before, everyone was still talking about how horrible 3e was.

I think the sillest rpg book I have come across is Robotech:  Lancer's Rockers.  The weapons are the musical instruments of a band.  I understand Palladium had this available as a free download, but not sure if that is still true.  Through the pig-in-a-poke method of buying rpg lots, I am the proud owner of two copies.  And although I have had one listed for sale for a while, am very much afraid that status will remain unchanged.

F.A.T.A.L. is the correct answer.

Despite anyone's dislike of a particular system mentioned in this thread (d20, Harnmaster, Synnibar, etc.), we'd have to admit that there is some population of players who are using the system and enjoying it.  Nobody is playing F.A.T.A.L., and if they are, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THEM!

Forget unplayable, I challenge anyone to even read the whole thing.  Other than the two guys who wrote the legendary review over at rpg.net, and I suppose the author, I doubt anyone actually has read the whole thing.  Despite valiant efforts to bring humor into how repulsed and offended they were through the entire process, even the review is likely to offend, because it necessarily has to discuss what's in this misogynistic, evil, puerile, "game."

Badmike wrote:
Still would go with original Top Secret ....

Mike B.

Looks like I need to do some ass-whuppin' when I get to Texas in June. Blasphemer shall pay!

Badmike wrote:Top secret is a great game and we played it quite a bit. But the number crunching required all players to have a calculator at hand and gun battles slowed to a crawl...making the most exciting part of the game into doing math problems. Some of the same complaints about 3e as I recall  :D

Mike B

The blasphemer now compares Top Secret to TETSNBN!!!!!   I am now scheduling an earlier flight

(regardless of the fact that he speaks the truth that TS is very "math" heavy. Still, a blasphemy is a blasphemy.)

The 2nd edition of Top Secret was really quite a good system, it moved fast and covered about everything you could do without bogging down at all. Unfortunately the adventures and sourcebooks were not very good.  The solution was to convert stuff like Orient Express and Rapidstrike to 2E TS and play them, which we did, and it worked well.  I've always thought the 2E TS rules are really under-rated, easy to learn and they move the game along pretty good.

Back to Worst Game System, did anyone here ever try to play Powers and Perils?  I don't have a copy anymore but I distinctly remember saying "WTF?" several times while reading through the boxed set.

Mike B.

bbarsh wrote:

Badmike wrote:The 2nd edition of Top Secret was really quite a good system...

Mike B.

This horror will not end! Time to summon the Jun Horde and head to Texas! The Blasphemer must be stopped!.

Let me dig up my PPK and I'll join you!!  

Hector.

bbarsh wrote:

Badmike wrote:The 2nd edition of Top Secret was really quite a good system...

Mike B.

This horror will not end! Time to summon the Jun Horde and head to Texas! The Blasphemer must be stopped!


Now, if you want to throw Top Secret S/I on the heap of crap games, I am in. It's like Sean Connery James Bond vs. Pierce Brosnan James Bond.

Maybe I'll run a 2E Top Secret/SI game to run at the con. You can run a 1E game, I'll finish the mission and you'll still be rolling up gun stats.....

Mike B.

bbarsh wrote:

Badmike wrote:
Maybe I'll run a 2E Top Secret/SI game to run at the con. You can run a 1E game, I'll finish the mission and you'll still be rolling up gun stats.....

Mike B.

Oh, It's on! You run your SI and I will run 1e. While our group is having ours shaken (not stirred) and having a blast, your group will be wondering how they get back the last few hours of their lives they just dumped down the crapper.

Back to a more serious note. I do have to admit that I do like more mathematical complex games: Champions (first couple editions), Star Fleet Battles, et al. And Top Secret does require a bit of work, but it is all worth it. Besides, how hard can it be if a bunch of teen agers figured it out?

yeh Champions is another...we started out with Villains and Vigilantes, which has some math but not to the extent of Champions.  When we tried Champions, it just took too long, we soon went back to V&V.  I'd still rather play V&V to this day.

Mike B.