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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:57 am 
 

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bah fiend folio is one of my fave books and i dip into it with regularity in my games.

mark: youre right with the warrior pic - classic art. i agree that some of the creatures in it are pretty silly, but generally, i think a fair number of them are cool for quality encounters.

i still despise the WSG and the DSG. you won't ever get me to agree that they are worthy of any use, at any point of the day.

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I agree with Al.

These monsters from Fiend Folio are interesting and give players great challenge. But I don't use too much of them...
There was a guy asking for advices in DragonFoot to switch the FFolio monsters for more classics monsters in the UK2 and UK3 modules (the Sentinel & the Gauntlet). That is a pity IMO, these 2 modules are a good example of how use the Fiend Folio.
About WSG and DSG, I have the same feeling.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:20 am 
 

Hey Mark.

I am not an art historian, but I think that human/animal hybrids, or humanoids which are mostly human with some animal features have been a feature of art for millennia.  Think ancient Egyptian art with the part-human gods displayed in carvings on temple walls.  I reckon that in these cases, we invest the creature with the characteristics of the animals in question - so the Minotaur was strong like a Bull etc...  Move up to depicting Tolkien's orcs, and the piglike noses make sense, these are dirty, omnivorous, stupid*, squalid beasts - like pigs.  You could imagine them with (for example) hyena faces, too but not with say, cat or cow faces.  Generally the more intelligent a creature is the more human appearing artists have tended to depict it - for example, many of the artist renditions of the trolls from the Hobbit are more humanlike than the depictions of trolls from the Lord of the Rings.  Why, because they talked, had a discussion and thought (even if a bit dimly  :D ).  In the Lord  of the Rings, the trolls are just huge killing machines, so they are tend to be depicted less human-like in appearance.

As to what is happening now - well you are on your own there mate.  I don't buy video games or watch many hollywood (fantasy) movies or even buy lots of new 3.5E games, so am not really following what is happening.  It does seem that gaming art is more detailed and lavish - no more thin line sketches, it's all colour 'wham' on the page. It also follows an increasingly narcissistic trait, where every physical figure is 120% perfect in appearance.  Very comic-book.  Which is kind of ironic, as many countries slide into widespread obesity, our depiction of human(like) figures is becoming more idealised and physically 'perfect'.  :roll:

Any help?  Do let us know how your thoughts develop, I agree, it is an  interesting area, perhaps we tend to focus on rules too much rather than art - which actually has a strong impact on how people play.  


* yes, pigs are more intelligent that cats and dogs, it is the impression not the actuality that is being transferred.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:41 am 
 

My ex was a human-animal hybrid. Looked like a dog, spent money like a human.


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:09 am 
 

bclarkie wrote:Okay, I have absolutely no clue as to exactly what this is, but this has to belong in this thread:


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It's a supplement to the Hol (Human-Occupied Landfill) RPG.  Hol and Buttery Wholesomeness take place on a somewhat nasty planet.  The interior pages are insane.

  


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:04 am 
 

FormCritic wrote:What's wrong with a few heavily armed ducks now and again?

I remember the shock and awe I felt when the DM explained that my OA character (I forget what they're called) could change into a duck.  I thought by "drake" they meant something far more fearsome.  :D

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:04 pm 
 

i could suggest you this one:

http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php? ... s_id=2637&

it is a d20 product, it is freeware and i had fun in reading all the bulls***ts in it!


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Post Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:16 pm 
 

I believe that in The Hobbit, the trolls held conversations, different than the mindless mountain trolls in LOTR.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:00 am 
 

red_bus wrote:Hey Mark.
I am not an art historian, but I think that human/animal hybrids, or humanoids which are mostly human with some animal features have been a feature of art for millennia.   


In this case, I am not talking about "similar."  I am talking about "the same."

The orcs in the Holmes Basic Set are not just variations on the same theme...They are images taken directly from Sleeping Beauty...with the name "orcs" attached to them.

The artists for He-Man and Return of the Jedi clearly picked up their imagery directly from D&D publications.

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Post Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:51 pm 
 

Another thread I just had to bump......

Surely we have some new entries in the last year and a half???? :D

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:46 am 
 

Having just briefly reread this thread, it might be a good time to discuss the benefits of the Zocchihedron Mark II 100 sided die.  I'm sure it is a huge improvement over the original mentioned earlier.

It's always a good read to go through the Post-It-Note around the world story too.

I think the one item that stands out in my head at the moment is the small press item called U.G.S. Fantasy Universal Game Screen.  It states on the package that it is "For use with any game!".  The outside of the screen contains cartoons that look like Dragon magazine cartoons but the inside of the screen is blank.  So "For use with any game!" means you get to copy whatever tables you want onto the screen making this rare product essentially a high priced piece of cardboad.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 1:42 am 
 

I've said it before (here and elsewhere) and I'll say it again: Exotic Characters and Worlds by Gamemaster Guides. The surfing fighter subclass really puts it into a league of its own. The book is comical and painful to read.

It's "Monster Manual" supplement (whose name escapes me at the moment) isn't much better. Half the monsters are blatantly stolen from movies or television shows.  Munchkins. The Blob. Cousin Itt.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:04 am 
 

I have to agree with some folks earlier in this thread.

Under The Storm Giants' Castle gets my vote hands down.

Puffy cut-away dungeon walls and ballon people that scream "Kill the pins!" when they see swords?

Wow. With something like that being published, it makes you wonder. I read somewhere that the author was a JG contest winner and got UTSGC published through the contest. Is that correct?


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:14 am 
 

Center_Stage_Hobbies wrote:I have to agree with some folks earlier in this thread.

Under The Storm Giants' Castle gets my vote hands down.

Puffy cut-away dungeon walls and ballon people that scream "Kill the pins!" then whey see swords?

Wow. With something like that being published, it makes you wonder. I read somewhere that the author was a JG contest winner and got UTSGC published through the contest. Is that correct?


I have to run the dungeon once before I die just to yell "Kill the pins!" at the befuddled players in that game..... :D

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:06 pm 
 

Center_Stage_Hobbies,

It is correct that he won a contest to get published.  Info was in a thread here on the Acaeum.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:11 pm 
 

F.A.T.A.L. gets my vote.


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:02 pm 
 

1.  Amber the diceless role-playing game.

2.  Any LARPG.

3.  Starfaring - heh, it was the first game, and I think the last, I bought via catalog sight unseen. I still have it though 8O

4.  Under the Storm Giants Castle - can't be denied.

5.  Pretty much anything with the name DragonLance in it.


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Post Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:55 pm 
 

Thanks, Martin, for the info. I'll look for that thread in the JG subweb, I assume...


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Post Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:16 am 
 

bbarsh wrote:
4.  Under the Storm Giants Castle - can't be denied.


One of my all time favs, running through the walls and achieving terminal velocity (20d6's I believe???) Just put on Robyn Hitchcock "Balloon Man" and your good to go!

  
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