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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:39 pm 
 

Like I said before, just because you insisting that it is so doesn't mean that it is not really the case.  


EXACTLY! I am glad that we could come to agreement on this point. Just because you keep insisting that I am something that I am not doesn't mean it's true. But keep saying so, and I will keep defending myself in response as I have been.

It is quite apparent to myself and I would imagine most others though that we have clearly different views on what honesty is.


You mean like standing here in a public forum and pointing out again and again how what you are saying is incorrect and inaccurate and not justified and MORE IMPORTANTLY that I apologized for my actions in the first place (allowing a family member to bid on my auctions) and have since never allowed it to occur again. That seems like the actions of a pretty honest person if you ask me and also of one with nothing to hide since if I did I wouldn't be here dragging this issue out longer and longer for more and more people to read.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:43 pm 
 

Pipes, just so you know, the "family member bidding" story has popped up here a few times before in defense of shill allegations.


Ok, and I can't account for the actions of anyone else but myself and those immediately around me.

If you or anyone else want to suggest that I was wrong to allow a family member to bid on items in my own auctions you are ENTIRELY CORRECT.

If you are though trying to suggest that my brother doesn't really exist or the account in question is not his account or that I created or used it only to defraud buyers you are ENTIRELY INCORRECT.

This matter boils down to one thing and one thing only. A lapse of good judgement on my part and a total and complete admission that doing so was wrong. I apologized for it as well. It has zero impact on my dealings with other members of this site here and now (and even back then for that matter).

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:47 pm 
 

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You mean like standing here in a public forum and pointing out again and again how what you are saying is incorrect and inaccurate and not justified and MORE IMPORTANTLY that I apologized for my actions in the first place (allowing a family member to bid on my auctions) and have since never allowed it to occur again.


The only reason that it hasn't occured again is because you have almost completely stopped selling on Ebay since you were busted.  Looking at your feedback out of the 10 or so items that you have sold, it seems to me that you have only sold fixed price listings. Because of that, then  there really is no need to shill them is there?  Kind of hard to shill a listing that only has a Byu It Now price.  What's really funny is that the umwpipes bidder doesn't seem to be interested in any of those.

jpipes wrote:That seems like the actions of a pretty honest person if you ask me and also of one with nothing to hide since if I did I wouldn't be here dragging this issue out longer and longer for more and more people to read.


Is it? I can't tell you how many times you have told me to bugger off.  Once again go read your own posts!

Anyway, my point is clearly and plainly proven for everyone here to see.  Lets get back on topic here.  Who still wants to buy Miniatures from jpipes?


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:01 pm 
 

The only reason that it hasn't occured again is because you have almost completely stopped selling on Ebay since you were busted.  Looking at your feedback out of the 10 or so items that you have sold


You most certainly are not the sleuth I almost thought you were. My transactions on ebay aren't limited to those expressed via my feedback. And my slowdown in sales has nothing to do with your comments from months ago. I sold actively and steadily for a long time after with zero problems or issues. My sales fell off because I stopped needing to sell as much as I started a new career, didn't want or need to sell pieces of my collection, and I had less to sell overall. Most importantly ebay changed their fee structure such that I was annoyed enough to not give them the profits. You can continue to try and see things that aren't there but that doesn't make them true as you so clearly pointed out.

Is it? I can't tell you how many times you have told me to bugger off.  Once again go read your own posts!


Yes, it is! Entirely! I have told YOU to bugger off many times because your actions warrent it. You didn't start this latest attack by posting a message with factual content or with a brief word of warning allowing for me to present counter facts, you attacked me and made something up and used random and unrelated examples of things in the distant past to support your comments. So yes, I have and will continue to tell you to bugger off.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:04 pm 
 

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Yes, it is! Entirely! I have told YOU to bugger off many times because your actions warrent it. You didn't start this latest attack by posting a message with factual content or with a brief word of warning allowing for me to present counter facts, you attacked me and made something up and used random and unrelated examples of things in the distant past to support your comments. So yes, I have and will continue to tell you to bugger off.


Alright if you say so.  Trying to get back on topic now. Who still wants to buy miniatures from jpipes?


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:13 pm 
 

Oh, and I am sure that no one else is posting here because no one else is reading it because I am sure no one really cares.


BClarkie seems like one's proverbial big brother. You love it when he makes fun of other people and then have a beer with him afterwords. Heck, half the time you join in on the fun.

But when he comes after you, you never forget what it feels like. As such, no one that's been around the block's going to cross him.. on this board, anyways. It's the circle of life.

bombadil's quip about you not winning this debate is the truest, most fact-based comment I've read on this board.

I mean can't we all sing kumbaya and talk about pricing ethics? :D

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:18 pm 
 

Sea-to-sky-games wrote:
BClarkie seems like one's proverbial big brother. You love it when he makes fun of other people and then have a beer with him afterwords. Heck, half the time you join in on the fun.


I must have missed the point in this thread where I made fun of anyone. Can you point out to me as I am very curious. I have done nothing except point out the facts no more no less.  I haven't even stooped to Mr Pipes level and start hurling personal insults at him.

So now can we please get back on target and see who still wants to buy Minis from jpipes?


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:18 pm 
 

Trying to get back on topic now. Who still wants to buy miniatures from jpipes?


Probably any one of the 10 or so folks who contacted me offline and with whom I am working out deals with right now. Shall I give you their names and numbers so you can hold their hands while they deal with such a criminal mastermind such as myself?

bombadil's quip about you not winning this debate is the truest, most fact-based comment I've read on this board.


Well, then he has met his match as I will *not* back off from defending myself or using this forum or any other to sell my items, buy things I need, and discuss topics related to my interests. I will not be dragged down by a simple mistake for which I have apologized for by someone with an axe to grind. Keep trying as it's clearly having no impact on those interested in buying from me right now, nor in making me "go away" as you suggested earlier.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:21 pm 
 

jpipes wrote:Probably any one of the 10 or so folks who contacted me offline and with whom I am working out deals with right now. Shall I give you their names and numbers so you can hold their hands while they deal with such a criminal mastermind such as myself?


How about having them post here now?  I am not taking your lying ass word for it.  I'll take theirs thank you very much.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:21 pm 
 

I have done nothing except point out the facts no more no less.  I haven't even stooped to Mr Pipes level and start hurling personal insults at him.


Really?? Look who likes to lie now! Your very first posting was a made up suggestion of what you thought might have occured between a private buyer and seller regarding a transaction that took place months ago. You had ZERO basis for commenting on that transaction specifically yet you provided supposed details of what took place. How was that factual no more or less like you state????

I would also suggest that it's a personal insult to suggest that someone is not worth dealing with, not trustworthy, not honest, and shouldn't be a member of this forum. Therefore, you personally insulted me plenty which is why I have and will continue to fight you whenever you do.

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:23 pm 
 

how about having them post here now?  I am not taking your lying ass word for it.  I'll take theirs thank you very much.


You must be getting weak from trying to battle on this. I thought you said earlier it was a terrible and wrong thing to post names without their permission on a public forum. Which is it?? Feeling confused about what you think?? Make up your mind.

I will let those in the process of buying minis from me post when and if they see fit. I am sure they will all enjoy the minis when they receive them.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:29 pm 
 

I must have missed the point in this thread where I made fun of anyone. Can you point out to me as I am very curious. I have done nothing except point out the facts no more no less.  I haven't even stooped to Mr Pipes level and start hurling personal insults at him.


The analogy was just that.. an analogy. Making "fun" of people on boards was also meant to characterize attacks on other members who don't share your views or, in this case, a perception of facts.

In this thread, it has primarily stayed on the perception of facts but there are countless posts authored by you making fun of others: "this seller has no idea of what 'rare' is" "what a stupid asking price" "he has no idea of what he's talking about in his item description" et al... and that's just in one thread. Hence my analogy -- based on my perceptions -- which of course, others are free to rebutt.

No one needs to come to jpipes defense, but if there ever was "forcing one's views on others" this has got to be the classic case.

  


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:35 pm 
 

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Really?? Look who likes to lie now! Your very first posting was a made up suggestion of what you thought might have occured between a private buyer and seller regarding a transaction that took place months ago. You had ZERO basis for commenting on that transaction specifically yet you provided supposed details of what took place. How was that factual no more or less like you state???? .


Dude , you are so lost its not even funny. :D  My sarcastic remark wasn't anything other than alluding to your previous shilling activity. I was well aware that your transaction did not take place on Ebay. Let me prove you wrong yet again:

viewtopic.php?p=69424&highlight=garde#69424

See that post right was about you  , so I knew [b]exactly what happened.  right there in writing for everyone too see.

jpipes wrote:I would also suggest that it's a personal insult to suggest that someone is not worth dealing with, not trustworthy, not honest, and shouldn't be a member of this forum. Therefore, you personally insulted me plenty which is why I have and will continue to fight you whenever you do.


Once again, posting the facts is not an insult. My point once again was to educate everyone here as to who you really are. If they see my posts and still want to risk dealing with some one of your sort, then they have no one but themselves to blame if it goes to to shit like others have already dealt with.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:39 pm 
 

jpipes wrote:
You must be getting weak from trying to battle on this. I thought you said earlier it was a terrible and wrong thing to post names without their permission on a public forum. Which is it?? Feeling confused about what you think?? Make up your mind.

I will let those in the process of buying minis from me post when and if they see fit. I am sure they will all enjoy the minis when they receive them.


Did you even read what I wrote??? Once again you didn't.  Once again, I said for anyone who deals with you know and feels the need to defend their dealings with can feel free to do so on their own.  I am not going to take your word for it that i.e,

jpipes wrote: "Probably any one of the 10 or so folks who contacted me offline and with whom I am working out deals with right now".


Lets just see how many people are still interested in dealing with you now they they can see who you really are.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:44 pm 
 

Dude , you are so lost its not even funny.   My sarcastic remark wasn't anything other than alluding to your previous shilling activity.


But wait! I thought you said EVERYTHING you posted was *factual* and none of it was a personal attack. By your very admission then that was a lie as your very first comment was in every sense of the word a personal attack, in addition to being untrue.

Lets just see how many people are still interested in dealing with you now they they can see who you really are.


So far no one seems to be disinterested based on my email discussions regarding my minis, sorry to say.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:44 pm 
 

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The analogy was just that.. an analogy. Making "fun" of people on boards was also meant to characterize attacks on other members who don't share your views or, in this case, a perception of facts.

In this thread, it has primarily stayed on the perception of facts but there are countless posts authored by you making fun of others: "this seller has no idea of what 'rare' is" "what a stupid asking price" "he has no idea of what he's talking about in his item description" et al... and that's just in one thread. Hence my analogy -- based on my perceptions -- which of course, others are free to rebutt.


Dude have you even read any of the other thread on this forum with the exception of the ones that you wrote in?  Its pretty obvious that you haven't as if you think that I am the only one who derides peoples buying/selling tactics you are sorely mistaken. Almost everyone on this forum has done so and in a lot of circumstances are almost always spot on in.  It seems to me that a majority of posts here are pretty much in line with everyone elses, so it seems to me that I fit in here just fine.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:44 pm 
 

then they have no one but themselves to blame if it goes to to shit like others have already dealt with.


I'll let you guys have at it for a while, but a shill bid results in someone paying more than they otherwise would.. but still below the maximum of what they were willing to pay. As "bad" as that may be, "goes to shit" seems like a very exaggerated term to use for "overpaying". It seems only reasonable that one should withhold such a characterization for when people actually get ripped off (don't get an item) or some other major defect to the item they actually do get.

Your public service announcement has brought to light facts surrounding some past issues with jpipes.. they are plain for all to see. How people interpret them is entirely up to them... there's no right or wrong answer.  Scaring people off by using hyperbolic language seems to be going overboard.


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Post Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:45 pm 
 

jpipes wrote:
But wait! I thought you said EVERYTHING you posted was *factual* and none of it was a personal attack. By your very admission then that was a lie as your very first comment was in every sense of the word a personal attack, in addition to being untrue.


Ummmm your shilling in the past is a *fact*....


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